The consequence of turning femanine equality into an ideology

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Glow, as a man who's called others the n word, and who has watched porn and objectified for over a decade women, I strongly believe I am filtered with bias and that I might not be seeing things the same way others do.

E_s has left now, he felt oppressed just for stating his opinions that he lovingly shared in transparency and honesty to you all.  He did not mean to upset...  And in turn everything that was trying to be made into a point here has actually occurred.

A man shared a manly biased opinion.  A woman got mad at the man.  The man defended, the woman defended.  Then more men and women jumped in.

So please hear me out.

That ignorance, that prejudice you hear in e_s, we all have that.  Lets not attack, lets not squabble.

Please forgive him for he knows not what he says, even if he does.  Please forgive me, for my obstinate and arrogant attempt at quelling the fight of man and woman.

I forgive you all, I forgive e_s for leaving even though I really really REALLY don't want him to go...  I forgive him for any arrogance and ignorance.  I forgive Jade, you, SMC, Nicholas, and everyone here, because we are trying to do something that is known to incite everything from disagreements to violence.

Let's forgive for our judgments and opinions and understandings, and try to come to a resolution.

I as a man, apologize for what men have done to women, it's an empty husk of an apology when compared in contrast to what men have done to women.  The same apology and issues apply when I say, as a white person, I apologize for the genocide and abuse and control other white people have committed on nonwhite people.

Its grotesque, and I have no doubt one day the white people will share in the misery they helped manifest as will the men of all races.

But right now, we are trying to find equality.  Should we be upset by every opinion we disagree with?  Sure!  But here, in this space and this time, can't we hold off on trying to see someone as being right or wrong, and instead try to share in an equally honest and transparent way your own opinion without accosting another's as lesser, or ignorant?

I'm sorry please forgive me, I don't understand the tenacity of defensiveness here.  I don't see e_s being sexist, he respects women, he has opinions but so do I but I respect women.

And if you want to nullify our respect, as distorted and strange or even perverse as it may be, please understand that in doing so, you damage our respect for women.

And yet still we persist with respect, we are only Human, we fail at this too.

Lets forgive.  I forgive you all, and I wouldn't have myself feel any other way in a discussion as volatile as this one.

I did not perceive hatred in e_s's post, I'm sorry for not seeing it the way you all have.  You needn't worry anyway, he's gone now...

Jade, I especially believe that you are now just as much in hatred as you perceive e_s to be. My admiration of the female form is of its divinity. The body is a tool, I speak of admiring that which uses a tool so elegantly and eloquently and so powerfully in abstract and intuitive ways. I speak of an appreciation for the divine unconsciousness that is the feminine. Please understand... I'm being assigned traits others perceive of me. I just want us all to be treated with equality, and to not be inured or encumbered by the inequality perceived to be between us all...