The consequence of turning femanine equality into an ideology

[Jade]

Wow, okay.  First, didn't read his blog, didn't felt I needed to to get what he was saying, but mostly I find it sad that he was censored in such a way without even being consulted to change his post first like what has once been done for me personally.  I've been in some similar situations as you Jade, you shouldn't believe your experiences are so indifferent for a man to empathize with.  I think your aggravation by my appreciation of the female qualities of existence is something you should consider exploring, I'm not talking about bodies.  I'm talking about qualities.  If you find my attraction to feminine qualities distasteful, then I can only say, may the shame you sell upon me be upon you instead.  I am proud of my appreciations of the female everything.  Without that love for something I believe myself to be more of than my own physical body can portray, I would be much more hateful and condescending, outright indignant towards women, that you call that very quality incendiary, I find just as incendiary.

I will not be ashamed for what I love, appreciate, and desire to know more of.

Joseph, you know I love you and don't think poorly or lowly of you. It's just shocking to see anyone say that what e_s said in his post wasn't hateful.

I also have not yet once in this thread (or, anywhere that I can think of) said anything about men being this or that. You are reading this into my words. If you find a specific instance, please show me.

Have I ever said I hate men? Have I ever implied it? Have I ever admitted to ever feeling misandry? Don't you see how resonating with misogyny on any level, even if it was in the past, might be unbalanced, might skew your opinions? Both you and earth_spirit have made the point that you hated women in the past. Are you sure you have completely evolved past this?

You made the comment about "women's form" with the explicit caveat that you also felt this way about men but "less sexually", immediately after you mentioned your porn addiction. You made it sexual. The reason this "triggers" me is because you seem so blind to how you are perpetuating what I perceive to be the issue, what Glow initially stated was the issue. Women are systemically reduced to being valued for only their appearance. Then, in the above paragraph you state that if you didn't appreciate the female "qualities" that you would be much more hateful towards women? I'm sorry, this sounds like you are still only seeing a shallow view of women.

You know how I treat an attractive wo/man and an unattractive wo/man? Exactly the same, because I don't judge people on their attractiveness. The thought literally never occurs to me. Unless someone has some jarring physical deformity, I really don't notice much about anything about how anyone looks. Do other (awake) people operate on a system where they are judging people by their physical appearance?

We can talk all we want about love and light and unity but, if you can't understand why I have grievances, then we still have a huge gap to cover before we can get there.

Here's a thought experiment. What if I (or someone else) said this:

"Black people are too lazy to contribute anything meaningful to society. Black people break the minds of their children and indoctrinate their sons to be subservient slaves and their daughters to be narcissistic airheads. Black people actually hate and oppress black people more than white people oppress black people, they hold themselves, and everyone else, down."

Is this hate speech? Yes/no.