The consequence of turning femanine equality into an ideology

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then someone replied & took it further (to make their point) & said something along the lines of, 'well i disagree i think it wouldn't be infringing on your free will even if i raped you until your brain leaked while forcing you to listen to the Ra material.'

Ah that does sound really messed up though, really graphic and vivid like a murder/rape scenario.

I want you to know Jade, no one's going to let that happen to you.  Rape and murders won't be happening if we have anything to say or do about it.

Listen, I don't just see the female form, I see something much more deeper than male or female, I see Creator.  I am trying all the time to see that in everyone.  I see you as much more than any anatomy.  You are a soul, you're like me.  I wouldn't want you to be disrespected in any way, I wouldn't want to be shamed, humiliated, or objectified and treated solely on my body.  I have a mind, its infinite exactly like yours with some unique differences but mostly similarities.  We have spirit.  I don't intend for you to ever be hurt by our discussions and I am sorry for my behavior and how I've hurt you.

Just know I will always respect you and defend your right to speak your opinion, even if I disagree with it, exactly like I do with e_s.

Isis, Thank you for providing this insight, I feel like a big insensitive ass right now.

I truly believe e_s's tone was misunderstood, that he does not view people like Jade or Glow or SMC as lazy and unmotivated or manipulative, and perhaps was speaking about the women around his reflections of reality, projecting what he see's in those who mistreat him as potentially, not literally, possible and occurring in anyone.

That doesn't make it okay regardless perhaps for him to be so blunt about it, but it is done and we can tell him how hurtful his view is and how hurtful it is overall to equality.   We needn't attack each other with accusations even when they are seen and felt.

Like for instance, Nich, I personally believe that Feminism is at its core, about Equality between Man and Woman.  I think there are extremists in the feminist movement, and I think they do as you say, but I don't think all of Feminism is an assault on the immaturity of masculinity.  I think it was well of you to mention this, and I just wanted to offer my own views because I do find it somewhat insulting to reduce an entire ideology down to being an assault on another ideology (masculinity).  But I think you have a right to say what you have said, and I don't judge you for it.  I think you think that way for a reason, especially since  I once felt those ways about the feminist movement before realizing I was a feminist in the sense that I share their desire for equality, not the extremists, but those women who just want to be treated fair and humanely.  To be cherished and respected as equals just as they cherish and view us as equals.

I don't think that's asking for a lot as an ideology, and I urge you to not let extreme examples deter you from considering the root desire that spawned those extreme distortions, which in this case, was a desire to be treated equally.

We all need to have compassion for each other to get anywhere with ourselves on these topics.

I'm glad everyone is participating and we're all sharing, I know it might be shocking and disturbing to some, even so we need to all communicate and work together towards coming to better understand one another as equals and not boys and girls or victims and abusers or anything less than wholly unique individuals with more in common than we have differences.

Sorry if I'm being obnoxious, just trying to help steer some energies towards forgiveness.  We all probably have things to forgive of ourselves and others in regards to sexuality and equality of the sexes, even if small little things, we all are capable of being the oppressor, so its up to us to make motions to be fair and open and compromising.  All of us, not just women or men.