03-11-2017, 05:44 AM
I would like to point out something very different!
I came to this thread quite late, since i usually don't look into that subforum.
When i saw it, e_e's post has already been removed, so i obviously missend that part completely at first.
When i saw it, i was shocked and commented. I was also upset by other posts which i wrote.
I also said, how important i believe feminism has been for decades now, and i deeply and with sadness acknowledge the fact that women have been treated very bad for centuries!
But there is also something else:
One thing, definetely i didnt oppress women in this lifetime.
But i have no clue, what i did in other lifetimes. Probably i was a part of the men, that treated Woman so bad.
But also Most probably i have also been a woman who suffered from this.
And we should consider this. it's not unlikely women have been opressing men in other lifetimes!
This is not to justify anything or to relativate anything. It doesnt make things better.
But i think it's a valid consideration that can give a broader view.
And then something very personal:
As much als i can understand it, there is quite some generalization.
I have been raped when i was two or three weeks (!) old. My mother willingly and knowingly has let this happen.
The destruction this caused on all levels of my being is Even beyond my imagination, im still discovering and healing big by bit.
With that generalization i feel like being put into the "perpetrator basket", it feels (although this is probably Nobodys Intention) als if i had no right to complain or suffer since i belong to the culprits.
And then i feel completely abandoned in my pain and suffering, nowhere to turn to.
Not sure if anybody can understand this...
Im trying to heal all of this with all available ressources, because otherwise i would be forced to unconsciously pass that pain on.
Yes, there is anger, there is hate, for both women and men.
But it was only a few people that did this to me, not all women, not all men.
And i give it my best to Break this vicious circle of hate, anger, resentment and violence.
Who else can i expect to stop this if i dont stop it in me?
I came to this thread quite late, since i usually don't look into that subforum.
When i saw it, e_e's post has already been removed, so i obviously missend that part completely at first.
When i saw it, i was shocked and commented. I was also upset by other posts which i wrote.
I also said, how important i believe feminism has been for decades now, and i deeply and with sadness acknowledge the fact that women have been treated very bad for centuries!
But there is also something else:
One thing, definetely i didnt oppress women in this lifetime.
But i have no clue, what i did in other lifetimes. Probably i was a part of the men, that treated Woman so bad.
But also Most probably i have also been a woman who suffered from this.
And we should consider this. it's not unlikely women have been opressing men in other lifetimes!
This is not to justify anything or to relativate anything. It doesnt make things better.
But i think it's a valid consideration that can give a broader view.
And then something very personal:
As much als i can understand it, there is quite some generalization.
I have been raped when i was two or three weeks (!) old. My mother willingly and knowingly has let this happen.
The destruction this caused on all levels of my being is Even beyond my imagination, im still discovering and healing big by bit.
With that generalization i feel like being put into the "perpetrator basket", it feels (although this is probably Nobodys Intention) als if i had no right to complain or suffer since i belong to the culprits.
And then i feel completely abandoned in my pain and suffering, nowhere to turn to.
Not sure if anybody can understand this...
Im trying to heal all of this with all available ressources, because otherwise i would be forced to unconsciously pass that pain on.
Yes, there is anger, there is hate, for both women and men.
But it was only a few people that did this to me, not all women, not all men.
And i give it my best to Break this vicious circle of hate, anger, resentment and violence.
Who else can i expect to stop this if i dont stop it in me?
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