03-15-2017, 02:04 PM
I would like to offer a few things:
@isis
my first offer is an apology to you!
Thanks for posting the conversation above!
i have to admit i was ready to put you in the "ass-box" because of the, in my opinion in that very Thread, quite inappropriate not-really-funny satirical pictures and the Breitbart link!
I honestly apologize for this and should really work on my willingness to judge people!
@ glow
I discovered that thread i guess hours or days after ee's post, which has at that Time already been removed.
My silence was due to the fact that i didnt See and participate in that thread.
What i think is a difficulty in challenging situations like this, is the confusing and mixing up of different "layers" which Must be treated seperately!
I will use a fictional woman that has been abused in childhood as an example:
(i Write this out of my own experience)
One Level would be:
Most likely, the childhood abuse will be triggered, intense emotions will arise.
Actually, a regression takes place. Youre dealing with a Little Child that in that very moment IS in an abusive Situation AND is being let down by her family.
Detachment here would be totally misplaced. That child needs a safe place to express, space for the heavy emotions and mostly compassion and understanding.
With detachement, you would let down the child again leading to re-traumatization!!
The problem would be, people outside are mostly not aware of this (this would require they had they Same childhood issue and have already significantly healed it).
So one would Need to become aware of this oneself, which is very difficult when emotions are overwhelming.
In any case, that part of emotional Energy has nothing to so with the Situation or the people involved!
Action being taken out of that state will Most likely to awry.
Another layer:
That Person would most likely be very sensitive to any situation that contains even a bit of the Original violation, resulting in accumulating more of the Same energy.
This also has nothing to do with the current Situation.
Another Layer:
Women are discriminated very often, worldwide and throughout history.
This leads to accumulating more pain, which also has nothing to do with the people involved.
Another Layer:
The thread.
People posting hurtful things, like ee did, other people don't speak up against it and so on.
This is absolutely connected with the thread and the people involved.
When you, while being aware of the other "layers" , still feel the urge to defend or speak out, it simply is an appropriate reaction in my opinion!
So, if you take 10 different people, put them in a thread, everybody having different layers active and are not aware you will probably get the Chaos we did!
@isis
my first offer is an apology to you!
Thanks for posting the conversation above!
i have to admit i was ready to put you in the "ass-box" because of the, in my opinion in that very Thread, quite inappropriate not-really-funny satirical pictures and the Breitbart link!
I honestly apologize for this and should really work on my willingness to judge people!
@ glow
I discovered that thread i guess hours or days after ee's post, which has at that Time already been removed.
My silence was due to the fact that i didnt See and participate in that thread.
What i think is a difficulty in challenging situations like this, is the confusing and mixing up of different "layers" which Must be treated seperately!
I will use a fictional woman that has been abused in childhood as an example:
(i Write this out of my own experience)
One Level would be:
Most likely, the childhood abuse will be triggered, intense emotions will arise.
Actually, a regression takes place. Youre dealing with a Little Child that in that very moment IS in an abusive Situation AND is being let down by her family.
Detachment here would be totally misplaced. That child needs a safe place to express, space for the heavy emotions and mostly compassion and understanding.
With detachement, you would let down the child again leading to re-traumatization!!
The problem would be, people outside are mostly not aware of this (this would require they had they Same childhood issue and have already significantly healed it).
So one would Need to become aware of this oneself, which is very difficult when emotions are overwhelming.
In any case, that part of emotional Energy has nothing to so with the Situation or the people involved!
Action being taken out of that state will Most likely to awry.
Another layer:
That Person would most likely be very sensitive to any situation that contains even a bit of the Original violation, resulting in accumulating more of the Same energy.
This also has nothing to do with the current Situation.
Another Layer:
Women are discriminated very often, worldwide and throughout history.
This leads to accumulating more pain, which also has nothing to do with the people involved.
Another Layer:
The thread.
People posting hurtful things, like ee did, other people don't speak up against it and so on.
This is absolutely connected with the thread and the people involved.
When you, while being aware of the other "layers" , still feel the urge to defend or speak out, it simply is an appropriate reaction in my opinion!
So, if you take 10 different people, put them in a thread, everybody having different layers active and are not aware you will probably get the Chaos we did!