11-04-2010, 12:16 PM
Thanks for this great dialog, everyone!
Wow, this really just sums it all up for me and removes all confusion! Aaron, your post resonated strongly. I appreciate your observation that something can be interpreted very differently by different people. The UFC match being the prime example- you are correct, I really am not interested in violence. It's really more about the art form of martial arts, how different disciplines play out against each other, how they react / interact... and et cetera. I guess this is also why I always found Bruce Lee so interesting. He wasn't about violence- he was about using the human form as an expression of divinity. Your pointing out that one will derive what one is seeking is so true. I think that's the key here for me- I was initially reluctant to believe that it could be true because I certainly didn't feel intuitively that I was contributing towards violence by my (metaphysical) participation in the seemingly violent act (watching the UFC match). In this light it makes much sense.
Now with fuller understanding I can say I definitely agree! In the context of the movie film, the emotional drama or physical violence can be seen as the catalyst for the characters. Most people don't go to see that movie to view the catalyst but instead to experience / empathize with the characters as they react to that catalyst. Without the catalyst there aren't the reactions and hence a pretty boring film. And of course, there are exceptions to this as with everything.
In the case of the history books, it again comes down to how the entity reading it approaches the material. Is the goal to relive the glory of battle victory, or to somehow relive the battlefield? Or is the goal to learn from the mistakes in history to create a more peaceful present? Here we can see that two people can truly put in, and get out, a completely different metaphysical energetic experience.
Thank you. Yes, and this also is in line with the dialog Don and Ra gives us, that LSD quoted above, regarding the entity who has faith to move a mountain. Each person does contribute some energy to the 'cause', whatever it is he or she was focusing on. But to see real physical results requires either much dedication and "work" towards that goal, or the collective efforts of many.
Again, so true.
Hey Shemaya, I completely agree. I think this is what putting fourth density together is all about. As the world gets smaller and smaller with an increased population and increase communications, the illusion of separate nation/states and separate "different" people becomes ever more obvious of it's illusory nature. As such we are responsible for whatever world we create for ourselves. So how will we create it? What will we allow to happen, etc? Also- thank you for your previous contributions to the thread, much appreciated by me.
Great conversation,all!
L&L ~L
Aaron Wrote:About the UFC match, I gather that you don't enjoy watching it for the violence. So, in a metaphysical way, you're not watching violence at all. You're enjoying a thought-form. And the thought-form that you interpret from the 3D event is a lot more refined. The basic elements of it that you resonate the most with are being amplified, while the others are being balanced in a unique way
Wow, this really just sums it all up for me and removes all confusion! Aaron, your post resonated strongly. I appreciate your observation that something can be interpreted very differently by different people. The UFC match being the prime example- you are correct, I really am not interested in violence. It's really more about the art form of martial arts, how different disciplines play out against each other, how they react / interact... and et cetera. I guess this is also why I always found Bruce Lee so interesting. He wasn't about violence- he was about using the human form as an expression of divinity. Your pointing out that one will derive what one is seeking is so true. I think that's the key here for me- I was initially reluctant to believe that it could be true because I certainly didn't feel intuitively that I was contributing towards violence by my (metaphysical) participation in the seemingly violent act (watching the UFC match). In this light it makes much sense.
unity100 Wrote:you are participating in it in whatever form you are clicking with it. if you enjoy the competition, you are participating in amplification of the competition aspect. if you are enjoying the brutality, you are enforcing it. combination of all these determines the final nature of your participation. impossible to dissect and analyze them each all. but, the overall feel/nature of the thing should be what it really is.
unity100 Wrote:anything that is desired for, will increase the likelihood of that happening. anything that is concentrated on, increase its power.
Now with fuller understanding I can say I definitely agree! In the context of the movie film, the emotional drama or physical violence can be seen as the catalyst for the characters. Most people don't go to see that movie to view the catalyst but instead to experience / empathize with the characters as they react to that catalyst. Without the catalyst there aren't the reactions and hence a pretty boring film. And of course, there are exceptions to this as with everything.
In the case of the history books, it again comes down to how the entity reading it approaches the material. Is the goal to relive the glory of battle victory, or to somehow relive the battlefield? Or is the goal to learn from the mistakes in history to create a more peaceful present? Here we can see that two people can truly put in, and get out, a completely different metaphysical energetic experience.
Aaron Wrote:There's a correlation between the strength of the thought and its physical manifestation. You could strongly attract something by focusing on the sensation of its manifestation intensely, or by holding the thought for an extended period of time. So maybe a tiny little one-off thought does almost nothing to move you in the direction of what you wish to experience. But an intense one-off does a bit. And an intense, focused and held thought or thoughts propel you towards it! ... If you really think about it, (hah!) even mundane "everyday" thoughts, idle thoughts while commuting, or opinions thought to yourself, will move you in a certain direction. And if you're moving in any direction, you're having an impact on someone else, no matter how slight or twisted through time. Actually, I don't think you can be born onto this planet and not affect anyone else lol!
Thank you. Yes, and this also is in line with the dialog Don and Ra gives us, that LSD quoted above, regarding the entity who has faith to move a mountain. Each person does contribute some energy to the 'cause', whatever it is he or she was focusing on. But to see real physical results requires either much dedication and "work" towards that goal, or the collective efforts of many.
Aaron Wrote:Privacy is only a concern in a places/times where there is some sort of fear... In places/times where thoughts are transparent, there is no fear. (Like 4D+ and so on) No fear = no need for privacy.
Again, so true.
Shemaya Wrote:In some places in the world there are still brutal public executions. But now there are people and organizations that speak up and reject this kind of violence, and I believe as long as there is public international outcry about these practices they will eventually be eradicated. But it is our responsibility...because we are everything don't you think? And if no one is taking responsibility to denounce this stuff, how will it end?
Hey Shemaya, I completely agree. I think this is what putting fourth density together is all about. As the world gets smaller and smaller with an increased population and increase communications, the illusion of separate nation/states and separate "different" people becomes ever more obvious of it's illusory nature. As such we are responsible for whatever world we create for ourselves. So how will we create it? What will we allow to happen, etc? Also- thank you for your previous contributions to the thread, much appreciated by me.
Great conversation,all!
L&L ~L