11-05-2010, 10:04 AM
(11-04-2010, 07:26 PM)@ndy Wrote: Is what your describing Ali - something like the difference between a belief and a though?
Not exactly, a belief is only a persistent thought that we subscribe to, it's still conceptual, faith is more like the reason you believe in the persistent thought in the first place. You can't explain it. It's just something true, but you don't know why. (Preconceptual)
Take for example the belief "God shall provide". That's a concept, it presupposes a God, it also presupposes scarcity. It presupposes a lot of things. And because of this it doesn't guarantee abundance. But when you feel in your deepest of hearts that you are taken care of. You can then say God provides as an expression of that inner feeling. The belief itself isn't even relevant. You can doubt it and still remain well provided.
Take for example two kids of two different mothers. One kid has experienced a mother who is consistently present when he needs her. The other experienced a mother who for all kinds of reasons could not always be there. The first kid formed a model of the world where his needs are met. The second kid formed a model of the world where his needs are not always met. This is a subconscious assumption they made about the world. The first kid will always make the subconscious assumption in his core that the world provides for him. The second kid may not. Both may carry the belief that God provides for them. But the second kid may experience more setbacks in that belief.
The difference is that when you ask the kids, what do you believe? Both can tell you that, easily, it's their conceptual truth. But when you ask them things that hinge on that core faith the first kid will be more inclined to say that all will be well while the second kid can not say this as readily. If you ask them why that is they won't know with such certainty, they'll need to search their hearts to find the answer to their faith. Again because it's preconceptual, it's not there as thoughts.
The mistake I think I often see in people is that they assume their rational thoughts are what defines their behavior. With some luck they realize that their emotions have a lot to do with it too. But there's a core structure that lies before emotions and before rationality. That actually sets the parameters for emotions and rational thought. This structure has a huge impact on our behavior and it's largely subconscious.
So changing your life is not as easy as just repeating thoughts and beliefs. You need to engage your core self, in esoteric terms: reprogram the light body. Before any real change occurs.
Fortunately there's a dialog, the preconceptual self does listen to the conscious thoughts and to a degree does adopts some of our beliefs. But this is not automatic, and it's not quickly.