Thanks a lot.
I understand. The passage is:
Do you believe that Ra was not talking about Lucifer as a Logos?
I particularly don't think like that. The negative path is just a choice that became possible with the Luciferian Matrix.
I agree. This dark connotation have bases in religious mistakes that consider Lucifer and Satan as the same entity/concept.
Peace, love and light.
(04-11-2017, 01:50 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I think the portion of the Ra material that used Lucifer alongside Logos did not mean that Lucifer is a Logos but instead that within a Logos was first used the symbolic archetype of Lucifer, that is to grant knowledge of both good and evil to the self through the use of the veil, to extend free will.
I understand. The passage is:
Quote:77.17 Questioner: Now, would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, there was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function only of this positive polarization evolving from our original creation of sub-Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true-color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.
Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.
Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.
Do you believe that Ra was not talking about Lucifer as a Logos?
(04-11-2017, 01:50 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Prior to this experiment, the negative path was not known and as such Lucifer has a slight different meaning to us now as we tend to use it to refer to the dwellers of the negative path.
I particularly don't think like that. The negative path is just a choice that became possible with the Luciferian Matrix.
(04-11-2017, 01:50 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I guess you could call the first Logos to implement a veil upon its 3D creation the first Lucifer, but that might be misguiding as the intent was truly to offer the Creator experiences of a more satisfying quality and Lucifer usually holds a dark connotation.
I agree. This dark connotation have bases in religious mistakes that consider Lucifer and Satan as the same entity/concept.
Peace, love and light.