04-15-2017, 04:30 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-15-2017, 04:32 AM by APeacefulWarrior.)
(04-14-2017, 08:53 PM)Henosis Wrote:(04-14-2017, 06:18 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Here is a good Q'uo explanation
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...ight=Jesus
This is a great explanation, but I can't full accept it. It seems to be missing something. I believe the topic of Jesus is an overly sensitive one that higher density entities in all compassion and perhaps wisdom choose not to clarify.
I believe an entity known as Jesus may have existed and even the special circumstances that are mentioned seem quite possible. He may have been a special type of creation that was a perfect channel for the Logos.
However, what I'll call the "religious complex" of Christianity propounds Jesus somewhat inexplicably as an anthropomorphism or personification of the Sun or the Logos. This is abundantly clear, whether considering him as the Sun and the 12 signs of the zodiac as his apostles, being the light of the world, or dying and rising again.
So why or how did an entity teaching about the Logos turn into the entity actually being the Logos?
I think somehow many teachings from different viewpoints were gathered and put together into one teaching and this is what we know today as Christianity. There may have been a physical entity named Jesus, but I'm certain Christ is the cosmic principle, the Logos, the inner spiritual sun.
Ok... I very very rarely make any sort of "the channel was distorting the message" arguments because I consider them a much too cheap, easy, and unprovable way of disregarding messages. However, in this specific case, I tend to suspect any channeling Carla did on the subject of Jesus\Christianity specifically, because she was very devoutly a follower of Christ. And I don't say that's a bad thing in the abstract, certainly not. Just that it almost certainly introduced distortions when the subject came up.
There was even a 5D who occasionally popped up during Q'uo channeling sessions, calling himself Yadda, who was comprised mostly of formerly-Chinese entities. He would get amusingly annoyed at Carla's fixation on Jesus and tried to encourage her to broaden her philosophical base. ("We so lonely for someone to say, 'Do you come in name of Zoroaster?' — he was a good guy, you know!")
He didn't show up much, but he certainly contributed some... interesting points of view when he did.
Anyways, getting back on-topic.
The other thing, though, is that I think it's extremely important to separate A)the messenger, B)the message, and C)the recipients of the message. Those are all three separate things. Even if - as I tend to believe is the case - Jesus-the-entity was partially unveiled and had knowledge of the other side most do not, he was still forced to try to render his messages in highly inexact language which is subject to interpretation. In turn, those hearing the message would almost certainly not interpret it in the exact same way Jesus intended it. All one has to do is look at the discrepancies between what Jesus taught and what St. Paul taught, to see this!
In the 3D realm, ideas suffer from entropy due to the necessity to "encode" them in language and then "decode" them through listening. There is a loss of data whenever information changes states in this fashion, just as there is loss of energy whenever physical matter changes states. So in terms of Jesus coming to be seen as "the Sun" or being associated with the Zodiac and soforth, I tend to attribute that to distortion\corruption of Jesus and his message as viewed by his followers rather than anything inherent to Jesus-the-entity.
So at least personally, my own tendency whenever reading the words of any of the great prophets, messengers, and other wise people is to focus solely on their message - not later interpretations - and try to always remember that they were their own person, so to speak.
As far as "Christ" being a cosmic principle, I honestly think it's no different from people who find within themselves "the Buddha nature" or their "inner Goddess" or any number of variations on the idea. What they are likely experiencing is a direct connection to the Source/Intelligent Infinity, but filtered through a specific concept of an entity, like light being shown through a lens. If Christ is your own spiritual sun, and that brings you closer to the light of the Creator, then by all means embrace it.
But perhaps understand that is, in part, you putting Christ-the-Entity into that role as your lens, focusing the light. And if you wanted, you could just as easily call upon many others like the Buddha, Gaia, Lao Zi, Mohammed, or -yes- even Zoroaster to serve in roughly the same role.