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    Thread: Do we complete the octave together?


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    05-13-2017, 05:35 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2017, 06:22 PM by Stranger.)
    (05-13-2017, 01:54 PM)Diana Wrote:
    (05-13-2017, 12:56 PM)Aion Wrote: The Creator is outside of time and space, beyond past, future AND present. It is whole and complete, unified. It is only an active experience of 'being explored' from within the context of space and time, but I strongly feel that this octave is already completed. The reason for this is the fact that the next octave already exists, Ra's teachers even came from there. So if the next octave is already engaged then why would I presume this one 'isn't finished'?

    Because all things are evolving, even the so-called Creator. How could it not be? It would mean everything is finite if it was already set in stone. And as each particle or part experiences and evolves so must everything. So it is more like an evolving, dynamic soup. At least, that's my working theory. Even a "unified whole" can change, evolve, grow in content. Frankly I think that is an explanation in 3D why the universe appears to be expanding.

    So outside the construct of linear time, where everything is simultaneous, change, flux, expansion and growth would all happen simultaneously with multidimensional connections and synergy, with the sum of the parts being greater than the whole which in turn evolves. Exponential growth and expansion on a level difficult to fathom when immersed in linear time. It's much too linear for me to think there is a line from Creator to self, then a line back to Creator (or whatever the source is).

    So because of choices made now, the whole changes. One's path evolves. So to say this density or octave is finished is to disregard possibilities which are infinite. I don't mean to be obtuse here, or vague. I am trying to get across the idea that we are creating everything in the moment, which concept has a lot of validity on many levels, and therefore to say something is finished is perhaps an inaccurate word.

    I think the problem with understanding "the eternal present" has to do with our cognitive limitations - we are creatures of time and space, cause and effect.  All of which are creations of a Creator who is not bound by these limits.  

    We make the mistake of thinking, "if the future already exists, then we must be in the past."  That logic breaks down outside of illusion.

    The Creator is not limited by time; doesn't have to do this thing first, and that thing second.  All of it happens at once, like the opening of a flower bud, or like all points in space simultaneously expanding outward as the Universe expands.  

    To our time-bound mind this is definitely a paradox.  The best metaphor I can come up with: think of a computer running a simulation of a world, computing it frame by frame.  Then speed it up until it can do it super fast.  Then, speed it up some more, and some more, until a conceptual threshold is crossed, and suddenly the computer can calculate all frames instantaneously, all at once.

    The simulation will STILL consist of those frames.  They are not rehashes of the past.  They are the very stuff of the simulated reality.  Until the computer has processed any given frame, it did not exist.  Similarly, until I just typed this sentence that you are reading, it did not exist.  I created it and added it to the Universe - from the Creator's view, simultaneously with all the other sentences I will ever write or have ever written.
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    Do we complete the octave together? - by Henosis - 05-12-2017, 08:32 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by AnthroHeart - 05-12-2017, 08:46 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Henosis - 05-12-2017, 09:08 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by sjel - 05-12-2017, 09:57 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Night Owl - 05-13-2017, 04:38 AM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Aion - 05-13-2017, 04:56 AM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Stranger - 05-13-2017, 05:25 AM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Aion - 05-13-2017, 12:56 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Diana - 05-13-2017, 01:54 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Stranger - 05-13-2017, 05:35 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Glow - 05-13-2017, 09:01 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Glow - 05-13-2017, 08:53 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Henosis - 05-13-2017, 02:04 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Night Owl - 05-13-2017, 03:31 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Stranger - 05-13-2017, 06:32 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Night Owl - 05-13-2017, 07:03 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by AnthroHeart - 05-13-2017, 07:25 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Glow - 05-13-2017, 09:07 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Aion - 05-13-2017, 09:53 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Infinite Unity - 05-14-2017, 11:15 AM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by anagogy - 05-14-2017, 12:03 PM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Verum Occultum - 05-15-2017, 10:12 AM
    RE: Do we complete the octave together? - by Aion - 05-24-2017, 07:22 PM

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