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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Healing Principles of Healing: A Discussion

    Thread: Principles of Healing: A Discussion


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    06-07-2017, 02:51 AM
    (06-06-2017, 01:53 PM)Aion Wrote: Hmm, I agree to an extent with that statement, but not completely. For example, no amount of emotional processing is going to fix a broken bone or a herniated disc, but it may help to ease the process. I think there is a tendency for each different system to focus upon a particular element of the human being and suggest it is the 'main' thing involved, but 'holistic' and wholeness to me always suggests something that takes place across the whole being. Together everything works.

    This is actually one of the 'issues' I have with a lot of traditional psychotherapy and techniques is the focus on this 'feel it out' aspect which I think is very important but then you need to start to change the mental patterns. That doesn't always happen automatically, in my experience. Someone very close to me who has experienced a lot of abuse has also had this experiences where they have been given many tools to cope with the emotional waves that come from her traumas, but found they offered few tools to make concrete changes in the mind. I am all for the 'natural healing process', but I think that the mind is similar to the body in that it needs to be 'trained' to follow new patterns. Thus, I don't think it is enough to simply process and purge emotions, but one also has to make the effort to balance one's viewpoint to be more healthy or whole.

    I have encountered numerous people who have 'burnt out' their emotions but have become so habituated to their internal thought patterns that even having worked through the emotions they are unable to move forward because of their pre-constructed patterns. They need to do something different besides just 'feel it' at the stage of healing they are at. The emotional stage of healing is very important and usually needs to come 'first' or early on, but by no means do I think it is the sole crux of healing.

    yes, sure, I agree on all levels!

    It was just a two-line-post which didnt cover my healing approach indepth really Wink

    First of all, i was referring to the spiritual aspect of healing.
    If i have a broken bone, i would go to the hospital first and later deal with the deeper aspects, obviously.

    In otjer words, all our "bodies" and aspects are connected in multiple ways, and although ultimately the body follows the mind (to simplify this), it is important to adress all parts of the system and most of all, to always adress that part that can be accessed th easiest and promises the greatest effect!

    As for the other part, that it a complex issue, and please bare in mind that i simplify here:

    generally speaking, i would say unprocessed emotions are what creates a blockage or distortion, on the deep level of our being.
    Also, on the surface level we are dealing with emotions mostly (or we are not dealing with them...).

    So, developing an attitude of willingness and a method as well as just practice with handling the emotional part would be one of the first ressources one should develop on the healing as well as the spritual growth part.

    What you adressed is what i would call "emotional addiction", which would be an "addiction" to an emotional state (no matter how unpleasant it might be). I would say that something like an energetic/emotional identity evolves around that. Even if the underlying issue has been healed completely, one still sticks to the "pattern" and keeps on creating it again and again.

    This is very hatd to dissolve, it requires the willingness and capacity to face the emotional content (since its close to impossible to discern if an unhealed portion arises or if the addiction is active) as well as the will to make a clear decision, deciding to not feed this "entity" anymore.
    The difficulty lies in the fact, that this can easily be used (unconsciously) to avoid unwanted issues...i guess you know what i mean. Very tricky thing!

    Other aspects of that decision/feeling through thing would be, ulti,ately (really ultimately) when you reach the deepest possible point, the point of seperation from oneness, you are at the same time feeling the most intense pain possible, but at the same time realize it is an illussion and at that very point the decision for unity can be made.
    So, one would need to have developed both ressources, the capacity to feel whatever is AND the ability to make a powerful decision. Both is ultimately very important.
    On the way "there" it is different from case to case.

    Sometimes you have to make a clear decision, otherwise you can neither grow nor heal and stay stuck, at other times it is not even possible to make a decision, simply because you have to face the emotion first, to be in a place of authority and be able to decide.

    Although this is in no way complete, i hope it illustrates my point a little more!
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    Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-01-2017, 09:43 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by AnthroHeart - 06-01-2017, 10:10 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-01-2017, 10:12 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by AnthroHeart - 06-02-2017, 02:44 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by sjel - 06-01-2017, 10:46 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Diana - 06-02-2017, 01:39 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by sjel - 06-02-2017, 02:09 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by David Junior - 06-02-2017, 02:13 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-03-2017, 11:54 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Diana - 06-03-2017, 01:15 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Steppingfeet - 06-26-2017, 03:30 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Agua del Cielo - 06-03-2017, 04:10 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Diana - 06-03-2017, 12:51 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Agua del Cielo - 06-04-2017, 03:56 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Diana - 06-04-2017, 12:14 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-01-2017, 10:58 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-02-2017, 02:58 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Diana - 06-02-2017, 01:21 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Agua del Cielo - 06-03-2017, 04:18 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by AnthroHeart - 06-03-2017, 04:33 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-03-2017, 11:45 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-04-2017, 12:57 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Diana - 06-04-2017, 12:29 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by AnthroHeart - 06-04-2017, 05:24 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Agua del Cielo - 06-05-2017, 01:47 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-06-2017, 01:53 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by hounsic - 06-06-2017, 03:06 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Agua del Cielo - 06-07-2017, 02:51 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-06-2017, 03:22 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Aion - 06-07-2017, 05:00 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Stranger - 06-07-2017, 10:38 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Agua del Cielo - 06-07-2017, 01:19 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Nau7ik - 06-10-2017, 08:30 AM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by flofrog - 06-13-2017, 01:52 AM
    Tipping points - by JerryF - 06-22-2017, 10:08 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Diana - 06-23-2017, 12:27 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Steppingfeet - 07-10-2017, 02:54 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Cainite - 07-10-2017, 03:16 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Steppingfeet - 07-12-2017, 02:40 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by Stranger - 07-12-2017, 02:59 PM
    RE: Principles of Healing: A Discussion - by JerryF - 08-09-2017, 11:58 AM

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