"The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom."

[Diana]

Instead, as my spirituality is spiraling positive, it seems like eating meat serves as a drag on my progress. Most of the time the slowdown isn't traumatic, just more like being grounded back to an unpolarized state, but there have been a few times over the last six months where I tasted a piece of meat (usually something my wife had ordered) and something was horrifyingly off with it. The worst was a piece of steak that made me instantly nauseated, but a weird kind of nauseated that I've never felt before, like it came out of my mind more than my stomach. I was chewing this piece of meat, and could tell quite well that there was nothing wrong with it in the traditional sense. I couldn't taste or smell any decay, everything seemed perfectly normal about it, but the instant it hit my mouth, I could sense the wrongness of it, and somehow, as I swallowed it, I knew that this cow had died in fear and pain. It really was kind of horrifying.

I understand this completely and have experienced similar things.

I don't think eating meat is a spiritual dealbreaker or anything like that. Jesus shared fish he cooked with his disciples after he resurrected, after all, and the Buddha wasn't a vegetarian and didn't teach vegetarianism. Further, there is a danger, for changing one's diet for the wrong reasons can serve as a distraction to one's spiritual progress, if you start deciding that you're right and every one else needs to be corrected. One can begin to substitute that shallow, surface level change for the real soul level growth one needs to be undertaking, and turn vegetarianism into an idolatrous "Way," rather than a simple dietary choice. (I was thinking of some vegan acquaintances when I wrote this, just an FYI, this isn't aimed at Diana or anyone else here.)

I don't know about Jesus or Buddha because that is hearsay and subject to human bias in recording events, but I agree that eating meat is not a deal breaker. This doesn't concern me anyway because my compassion for all life is where I'm at, not my concern for my own progress—one flows from the other. My own progress is my responsibility and concern of course, but it's hard for me to ex[plain—I don't separate that out from the whole. A person, presumably, would not decide to not kill her child because that would slow her spiritual progress; she would not kill her child because she loves it. I feel that way about all things, including plants. But as I have reiterated over and over on this forum, plants are inherently different and they in many ways are set up to offer themselves as food.

Looking ahead a thousand years, to an Earth inhabited by a fourth density social memory complex...do we really foresee that this enlightened fourth density civilization, in which the vibrational state of the Earth has polarized sufficiently for fifth and sixth density entities to start visiting in the "flesh," will achieve sustenance through the destruction of second density creatures? According to most of the channeled sources I've encountered on this topic, most positively polarized species in the universe do not destroy second density (or other) entities to sustain themselves. They eat the freely offered fruits of second density entities who have incarnated to provide this service. They would never artificially end that service in order to eat the entity itself.

The Jain are really the only people on this planet who pursue that kind of diet. Their dietary traditions are a fascinating study with fifteen hundred years of results to analyze.

This is how I feel as well.

The Jain are not the only people, though they do have a very strict and dogmatic approach. Many vegans are of the same mind.