07-28-2017, 12:43 PM
(07-28-2017, 10:40 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:(07-27-2017, 07:24 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Oh my, no not in the least. I was truly being sincere. We all have our specific missions. Neither one is better nor worse just specific.
As far as the farm animals, like I said in my previous post, as difficult as it may be to comprehend, what if the possibility of this use and abuse of farm animals was the catalyst that these animals needed to achieve 3rd density? I mean it sounds sick to think about it but humor me for a minute.
Ra states that the most common occurrence of graduation from 2nd density to 3rd density is the interaction with humans. Now what if humans were all vegetarians and these animals were all wild, grazing animals of the prairie?
Where would this interaction with 3rd density come from? Where would the motivation to become aware arise if they lived solitary lives?
What if the only way to increase the graduation from 2nd density to 3rd was this mechanized industrial processing of said animals? Trust me I'm not saying it's right but given the exponential growth of humanity, maybe this was just another way for the logos to repopulate a new 3rd density sphere?
Regardless of the reasons, I'm not justifying any of it. I'm just trying to convey a possible reason for it all. There has to be a reason about even there isn't, one can still reside with the knowing that all is well regardless of how brutal it may be
I agree with your theory that this is to give them an incarnation at harvest. I disagree with your supposition that the only way to harvest animals is to process them. And, the idea that any of these animals would even be alive if everyone was VEGAN (vegetarian hardly alleviates animal slavery and still perpetuates the death of billions - their bodies would have to go somewhere) is wrong - all of these animals go away, and the wild ones that we've ousted from their habitat would come back.
So, in theory, we have 70 billion+ souls in potentiation, to be harvested into third density. It's true that if we weren't eating them, that they wouldn't have an incarnation in the bodies that they are. Does this justify continuing to participate in this system of torture? To me, it seems that, per Ra's statements on the transformation of the mind, and the plundering of resources, that factory farms are the EPITOME of abusing the resources of our planet for the tiniest benefit to the self. Our rainforests are going away (the lungs of the earth), our oceans are dying and being overfished at obscene rates, and the practices that occur on every single farm on this planet would turn your stomach if you saw any of it happening to a dog. As a society, I believe that it is imperative that we decide to respect the planet and make better choices for what we consume, and to be better stewards for the beings who have chosen to incarnate alongside us. Electric cars don't save the planet. Solar power doesn't save the planet. Over 70% of green house gases come from agriculture, primarily methane from animal waste. This is the revolution that really needs to occur.
I while heartedly agree with you. If you read my very first reply to this thread, I stated that I was purely going off of the material and stated that I didn't know whether I believed it or not. All I'm doing is throwing out hypotheticals based upon the material. The only opinion I threw out was my belief that animals were driven purely by instinct and evolution and had a basic concept of consciousness. I never stated that I believed they didn't posses the possibility of having awareness only that the material contradicted that belief.
I'm not sure what I believe to be honest when it comes to the issue. If I apply my 3rd density mind to a 2nd density animal, I could see the suffering that must be felt. I would abhor the enslavement of myself being used soley for food rather than love.
But I'm left wondering if that's where the disconnect is. We are attempting to apply a 3rd density consciousness to a 2nd density lack of consciousness according to the material.
I'm will y'all who love animals and respect them. Not as decidedly as going vegan but I wholly agree and respect your willingness to do what you do