Episode #60

[rva_jeremy]

I think the conversation is that everyone really wants to have is not whether second density animals suffer, but what their suffering means to us as incarnated third density beings, as stewards for this planet. And I believe that was really the question that rva_jeremy originally was grasping for. 

For what it's worth, that wasn't really what I was after, but I guess the question was unclear.  I was trying to ask about the purpose suffering serves for the second density entities themselves on their path towards third density.  The Confederation has been pretty clear about the purpose it serves for third density entities: it is a form of catalyst to help us make the choice, sometimes a way to get our attention about something.  But since second density entities don't have a choice to make, what is the spiritual, evolutionary nature of the suffering they incur?  In other words, if suffering helps us evolve in the long run, how does suffering help them evolve in the long run?

I actually haven't listened to the episode yet, so I can't say whether this question was answered or not, but I appreciate all the discussion!

Edit: Austin got the sense in which I asked the question right, e.g. "why is it even possible for animals to suffer in the first place, when they can't use it as catalyst?"