11-23-2010, 08:50 PM
(11-22-2010, 05:20 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Sorry Unity, there's no point in continuing this with you. You seem to have an aversion to thinking outside the materialistic box.
I don't think you understood Ra. I don't think you've even half understood my objections to your understanding. I am not even sure you're able to see any alternatives.
i understood everything, however, you are not understanding that you are WANTING things to suit your approach, because you want to keep the thought that you are everything, including things outside yourself. you are transplanting yourself to being everything, despite still being finite, with deferrals to a future point in time. that point havent been reached yet. so, with the concept of reality we have, it is not 'real' yet. it will only be real, at the precise point in time when it becomes 'real', in future.
that is our disagreement here, it has nothing to do with materialism or holograms or anything else.
(11-22-2010, 11:38 AM)Experience You Wrote: The void is everywhere and nowhere it defies conventional logic. The air, you and anything is Void I.e Nothing. The true infinity.
the infinity is not everywhere. first of all it isnt a void, because it is infinity, it has to also contain and be states of existance, at the same time, secondly it isnt 'anywhere', because the concept 'where' is also some entity, existence, within infinity.
Quote:We are always the true infinity no matter what sort of "finite" we identify with.
That is from an observer point of view (especially a third density one) a paradox.
The higher you get to the eye of reality the less sense distinctions and conditions make, so it becomes very clear that there aren't any. Only void and then awareness of light as light
If you like i will find the links to the appropriate physics talking about mini black holes at the core of reality. (meaning everywhere)
there is an important part you are missing.
ra says that, every entity contains replica of INTELLIGENT INFINITY, aka the creator. NOT infinity, itself.
in comparison to infinity, intelligent infinity is also finite, because it is different from infinity, by being intelligent. being intelligent, is not an 'addition', or 'level up'. it is a distortion from the state of infinity. it has an adjective.
so, it is entirely possible for anything that is at the level below infinity or lower, to be replicas of each other, and, contain each other in a 'holographic' sense. but, none of these will be infinity itself.
the very creator, infinite intelligence, the 1st thing below infinity, is itself actually DISCOVERING things, knowing itself, from octave to octave.
there are still things the creator that is being talked about, will discover about itself. and that process, will take infinity, because there would be infinite things to discover about itself before it reaches infinity.
that is also another reason, why the creations wont stop forever, and be present in an eternal now, discovering and learning themselves.