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    08-21-2017, 07:47 AM (This post was last modified: 08-21-2017, 07:50 AM by smc.)
    Quote:This Clown’s Tweets About A Little Boy Wanting A Butterfly Tattoo Explains How Toxic Masculinity Really Begins

    ByNia Decaille
    6 days ago

    The patriarchy sucks. And not just in the way it polices women's sexuality, promotes rape culture, and continues to erases WOC's experiences. It also pushes men and women to continue the cycle of learned toxic masculinity. It means that from the time you're born, you're placed in a box based on your gender. And if you dare color outside of the lines, there are repercussions. Sometimes it's as blatant physical violence acted out against those who refuse to bend to gender roles; other times, it's as subtle and simple as a "no" from parents at a picnic when their son requests butterfly face paint from a clown.

    When entertainer and Twitter user S.S Markarian, or @boguspress, addressed the idea of gender violence after the incident, it shows how even the small moments can have a greater impact. Just like Markarian points out, it's our inability to understand the toxic ways that we construct masculinity in childhood that leads to . Until we confront the unhealthy ways we enforce gender, there will be plenty of children who will become adults that continue that pattern as a result. And fragile masculinity will continue to promote the wrong conversations online as if we haven't already seen the ugly side to cyberbullying.

    The story begins as a debrief after the picnic event mentioned, chronicling the reactions of parents whose son asked for a butterfly painted on his face.  

       Hey everyone I'm a clown and I just got back from facepainting at a picnic and here's my take on male violence in America:
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017

    And with the right preface, we get context about why this kind of conversation should continue on and off social media.

       It starts young. And it's more than just letting boys play with guns, it's how we shame them for feeling anything that isn't anger.
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017

    With stories like this, we understand how toxic masculinity takes root. The moments that children remember and shape their experience of the world for the rest of their lives.

       A 4yo boy asked me to paint a blue butterfly on his face. Then his mom told me "no, he doesn't want that."
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017


       "Butterflies are beautiful, he said that's what he wants, shouldn't I paint what he wants?"
       "No give him something for boys"
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017


    The part that is both disturbing and moving about this moment is that both parents reinforce this problematic attitudes about gender.

       She turns to dad, a big guy in a jersey, and says accusingly,
       "Do you want your son to have a butterfly on his face?"
       He says "No."
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017


       Which, cool, let's bring your husbands masculinity into it too. Because your 4yo kid needs to know that his father would be ashamed too
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017


    But it gets even more troubling about how the parent responds even after saying "no." A solid everyday example of why masculinity is so fragile.

       I really tried you guys, but this woman was so scared of her son wanting a butterfly she made me paint a skull and crossbones on his cheek.
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017


    Instead of letting children decide how to express themselves, adults project their own ideas of what gender means.

       When I finished the skull I said to kiddo
       "You want a little blue butterfly too?"
       He nods.
       Mom interrupts "You didn't ask me."
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017

    To this user's credit, this seems like a non-confrontational way to intervene. But the gender roles be like...

       I say in my kindest f*** you voice
       "Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was for HIM."
       "I'm his MOTHER. You need to ask me." She says.
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017


    What's frustrating is that while you understand what Markarian is doing and why, the insistence on gender norms sometimes makes a solid intervention look like intrusion — particularly when these ideas are already so rooted in the parents that they aren't likely to change their perspectives regardless.

       "SORRY." I say and wave good bye to the kid. And I am. I'm sorry that he is not allowed to love something as miraculous and beautiful as a BUTTERFLY ?
       — Sanduhruh (@boguspress) August 12, 2017

    While you can't help everyone see the error in their ways, it's just as important to recognize the subtle instances of aggression and calling it out the best you can. It gets frustrating, but it's stories like this that remind us exactly how the toxic narratives surrounding gender begin — early and repeatedly, and enforced by someone else.

    https://www.bustle.com/p/this-clowns-twe...gins-76447
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