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    08-26-2017, 09:52 AM
    (08-25-2017, 04:45 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: For what it's worth, I remember the Michael of "Messages from Michael" also saying that faith was undesirable. Additionally, the Buddhist author I"m reading a lot now, Chödrön, says faith is not desirable either.

    I think faith has several connotations that are distinct. Blind faith, as in identifying so deeply with a rigid dogmatic system that it constrains your vision of what's possible, is certainly not something we would condone. But you do need faith in the sense that you are willing to believe in yourself despite any evidence to the contrary; that your desire for the best and highest can and will manifest through mechanics you cannot understand, but only feel.

    The way we unify these divergent connotations is to focus on faith itself rather than faith in something external. Both Michael and Chödrön contrast faith with a kind of "find out for yourself" attitude, where spirituality is something you are inquisitive and open-minded about rather than something you reify as a matter of will. So in that sense faith is more about having faith in your own ability to tread the path, not about having faith in some concrete map of the path.

    Jeremy, you are amazing! You speak of faith beautifully!

    YinYang, I also appreciate you comment in the previous post. Smile
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