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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts]

    Thread: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts]


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    10-26-2017, 12:10 AM (This post was last modified: 10-26-2017, 12:10 AM by Dante776.)
    Dante Wrote:Not saying I believe this. But since we are all searching for the truth, this might be something worth considering.

    In "The Stargate Conspiracy", Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince investigated whether the Ra Material was a product of CIA mind-control experiments. Or more accurately, they came to that conclusion after coming across several reasons why this may be so in the course of their research into Puharich. I said in my last post that this conclusion was invalid but didn't go into detail as to why. I am sure of this because their logic is faulty on several grounds and their conclusion is based on incomplete information.

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    Dr. Andrija Puharich

    First, they discuss at length the shady history of Puharich, namely his involvement in CIA experiments regarding altered states of consciousness, his military research into psychic phenomena, and his interest in developing remote voice-to-skull beaming technologies. Then we have the Ra group using trance to tap into channelled messages. With Puharich having met the Ra group, it would therefore appear that the Ra Material was the product of the military beaming messages into Carla Rueckert's head during trance states. That the Ra Material began shortly after Puharich visited makes this seem so. In truth, the Ra Material began in January of 1981 and they met with Puharich in 1977/78 so it wasn't exactly "shortly" thereafter. There's lots that can happen in between.

    Secondly, the Council of Nine which Puharich helped tap into via his hypnotized subjects called themselves the nine enneads of heliopolis, the nine gods of Egyptian mythology. "The Stargate Conspiracy" then says, "Don Elkins and Carla Rueckert of L/L Research had (through Carla) made contact with Ra, one of the Nine, though significantly only after meeting Puharich."  There are a couple twists in that statement. One is that by definition, the god "Ra" was indeed one of the nine major Egyptian gods, but that the Council of Nine included the god "Ra" as one of their members does not necessarily mean that the "Ra" channelled by Carla was the same source Puharich tapped into. To say "Ra, one of the Nine" is kind of misleading as it was in direct context of Puharich's Nine.

    Who is to say that Puharich didn't arrive or associate with the Ra group due to his interest in such phenomena at large, which Ruckert/McCarty/Elkins had already been doing long prior to Puharich's arrival? Or perhaps he was sent in at a critical time when real contact was about to be made with an actual higher density source? Judging by the way Puharich and the govt worked, there would be just as much interest in investigating genuine phenomena as there would be in faking it for COINTELPRO purposes.

    Third, it was mentioned in the book that Puharich's subject committed suicide. That Don Elkins committed suicide in 1984 was supposed to show he was likewise a puppet of Puharich, even though it was Carla who did the channeling and then in a manner unlike the Council of Nine channelers who merely repeated the voices they heard in their heads. The actual story behind Don Elkins's suicide is a sad tale that shows dynamics at play different from those surmised by Picknett and Prince.  It can be found here: http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/… book_5.htm
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    At a Cassiopaeans session of August 1, 2001, the following exchange took place:

    Q: So, this stuff is just another diversionary channeled message designed to keep people confused. It looks like the guy has made up messages out of our worst nightmares, putting the worst possible spin on it imaginable. So, we can forget this idea?
    A: Yes.
    Q: What is the source of this kind of material? What kind of energy is behind it?
    A: STS mind control signal.
    Q: What is it designed to do?
    A: Reach those that are programmed to receive.
    Q: Let me ask you this: if some of these STS programming signals that are going out, I mean, I’m assuming some of them come from 3rd density, is that correct?
    A: Yes.
    Q: Do they actually have, like, some place on the planet where these guys sit around and read science fiction books and get these really crazy theories and stories that they assemble with some sort of fiendish glee, and then convert them via computer into the programming signal code that gets beamed out into people’s heads, while the guys who are making up all the space brothers scenarios in some secret military base or whatever, just fall down on the floor laughing at what they have just done? That people will believe anything? Is this possibly something that is going on?
    A: Yes.
    Q: That’s sick. (A) Well, if you had their agenda, wouldn’t you do it? (L) If I was as sick as those puppies, and had the money and facilities, yeah – I guess that’s what they are doing. They have probably taken whole H. P. Lovecraft novels, converted them to programming signals, and beamed ’em out for the New Age crowd to channel and believe! And then they say “My God! The space brothers or guardian alliance told me! It’s just like Lovecraft said! He must have been a prophet! Oh my God! Can you imagine?” (A) But it works. (L) It sure does.(A) You see, what this guy R___ is telling us about, the musician who is working on laser light shows in conjunction with certain music, is that it is capable of inducing prolonged altered states of consciousness, and that it will be used for massive, grand scale programming via the entertainment arts. He’s telling us about another phase of the program. And it’s coming pretty soon, according to him.

    Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light.

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    [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by YinYang - 10-16-2017, 05:27 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-19-2017, 09:20 PM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by YinYang - 10-20-2017, 03:26 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-20-2017, 07:25 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by YinYang - 10-20-2017, 08:47 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-20-2017, 09:05 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by YinYang - 10-20-2017, 11:06 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by rva_jeremy - 10-20-2017, 09:48 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by loostudent - 10-20-2017, 05:45 PM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by xise - 10-20-2017, 06:47 PM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Dante776 - 10-26-2017, 12:10 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Aion - 10-26-2017, 12:40 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-26-2017, 02:02 AM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Dante776 - 10-27-2017, 03:30 PM
    RE: [split] Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience [the Cult posts] - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-28-2017, 02:42 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by Stranger - 10-16-2017, 06:43 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by YinYang - 10-16-2017, 08:23 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-16-2017, 11:27 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by Aion - 10-16-2017, 12:23 PM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by Nía - 10-16-2017, 12:51 PM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by YinYang - 10-17-2017, 05:51 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by hounsic - 10-17-2017, 06:26 PM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-17-2017, 07:32 PM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by Aaron - 10-18-2017, 01:04 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by xise - 10-18-2017, 02:01 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by YinYang - 10-18-2017, 04:06 AM
    RE: Declassified CIA Document on Gateway Experience - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-18-2017, 11:54 PM
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