12-09-2017, 03:01 AM
(12-09-2017, 12:39 AM)Aion Wrote: Ah yes, the division of men and women against eachother. Something tells me both sides are being played against eachother and that too much focus on what is in the 'spotlight' yields only a small part of the whole picture.
Here's a better question in my mind, who benefits from the war between men and women?
You don't think the oppression of women just happened by chance, surely?
Ding Ding Ding...
Jade, I don't want to debate with you, I just want to talk, but the judgment is old and I'm tired of misunderstanding you.
I'm sick of this sexism nonsense, men do this to women, women do that to men.
My joke was for comic relief, jovially pointing out my bisexual response to Kevin Spacey. I don't see it as reductionist because I'm speaking for me personally, not everyone... And as far as what you think porn does, it's not porn that makes a boob 'fetishized', and it is not fetishizing something when it's a natural response. I will not argue with that manipulation and subtle degradation of male sexuality, much like some women didn't want to even HELP teach a man how to be respectful.
We wouldn't assign value to the size of tits the way we do dicks if they're not sexual. We wouldn't have underwear for them for them (that causes more harm than good) and we wouldn't as men, be so swayed by them even before porn became a thing.
Let's go back to Roman days, let me walk around with my dick hanging out, how dare you sexualize and fetishize a part of my body!
It's okay to beat a man but how dare he hit a women. Equality.
It's okay, Women are the better sex anyways, just look at how many men worldwide are trying to escape being a man.
But we're the oppressors in this patriarchy where women have more freedom than ever and men can't even find a date without needing to pay, or being rejected over and over.
I'm really sick and tired of this stuff but I'm mostly sick and tired of being a man trying to express this stuff to very judgmental and subtly sexist women.
No wonder i want to be a woman, I'll get affection, something literally foreign to me now. I'll get free s*** from men, just for being a girl. I'll get laid because there's an endless pool of willing people, and of those people, I can manipulate any of them and get away with it because it'd be his fault for letting me use him like the nice guy he is. I can tease men to coax them to do stuff for me. I could pull out the cleavage to win sway in an interaction with a man. Oh how nice it'd be to be a woman and get treated the way I treat woman. I'd be so happy just knowing that I could go put a picture of myself on a dating site and come back to prospective people desiring me! Oh woe is me that so many people want me!!
But instead I get manipulated, used, ostracized, berated, degraded, and then I'm called the oppressor. I can't take it anymore.
Oh I sure do enjoy being this hairy ugly smelly oppressive man, SO MUCH.
Ugh... I hate being a guy so fucking much in this world. I even argue for women and STILL I am degraded by them.
I can't take it, nope. I'm just going to leave. I'm the bad guy, okay. And here I tried so hard to be respectful, and all I got out of it was an empty wallet, an empty bed, an empty heart, and in the case of my last girlfriend, bed bugs.
But I'm the bad guy...
No. I just can't take it anymore. I can't take it, I took a girl out on a date, $50 dollars and a day later she won't return my texts or calls. I tell a drunk girl with a boyfriend coming on to me no, she forces herself on me. I spend 2 years chasing a girl who showed interest in me, $1000 dollars later she finally tells me she's not interested in me because I'm not attractive. Oh but I'm perfect boyfriend material, so there's that. I get molested by an older girl as a kid. One of my longest friendships ended because she refused to communicate with me her feelings regarding our physical relationship, now she knows I wasn't using her because she hurt my feelings so bad insinuating it that I stopped being her friend, and was very honest as to why only to receive silence in return. Girl I lost my virginity to wouldn't date me but would f*** me...Then wanted to date after I was dating the later to be mother of my son. Girl in high school tries to say me and another guy raped her, she was lying and thankfully everyone saw through her manipulative bullshit. The mother of my son took my son away and used her father's lawyer friends to keep me from pursuing. My own mother has been neglectful and abusive periodically across my entire life.
Quite frankly, in MYYY life, I'M THE OPPRESSED. So I don't have anything else to say about that except that I am greatly put off by all of this. I even admitted to feelings of misogyny from all of this s*** and still I try to find equality only to be met with degradation.
Think about MY LIFE next time you call men oppressors. The only fucking thing I've oppressed is my desire to scream at women for degrading and abusing and using me, then calling me the problem.
Think about it, Jade, the next time you insinuate me to be a porn brained part of the problem, really think about ME.
My anger may seem unwarranted to others but I clearly feel an attack on my character and I'm not just going to ALWAYS be silent about it, especially in a thread talking about how men are being assaulted.
Here here, just judge me and be done with it. I've done so much kindness and respect to women and this is my reward, I'm wrong, I'm bad, I'm the problem.
So be it, here it is, here's the bad guy! Just look at how angry I am! Fear me, I'm going to sexualize your naked body in a society of clothed people, I'm going to oppress you by speaking out against your degradation! I'm eyeraping you now, don't you feel it? My soul objectifying you?
It's not fun talking to someone like me, is it?
I'm so abusive afterall. So aggressive.
So full of distress at your honest response.
I hope this feels familiar, this must be how you all felt in response to E_S's post so long ago. The only difference is I can't delete your post and threaten to ban you for so slyly degrading me.
I just have to, oh, well then, be a man and suck it up!