12-13-2017, 01:47 PM
Having just woken up I'm put back a bit so I'm going to fall upon my affirmation to be a certain way.
Jade, all I can say is you perceive things differently from I, and I don't think that's worth arguing over. I will admit that I was emotional, but you seem to have one view over any other that the male is one way and the female another way.
The most sexist thing I recall from Star Trek is the Ferengi race's culture. Which in DS9 eventually is reformed to provide Ferengi women equality after a few hiccups with the grand nagus first by the prophets then by Quark and Rom's mother whom while dating the nagus helped him revise the Rules of Acquisition or at least Ferengi laws regarding women thanks to a woman breaking all the rules and pushing still even in a culture as prejudiced as that on Ferenginar.
No show is devoid of those stereotypes completely I think, so to argue media influence one way or another is beside the point to me because unless we go censor every show with something bad to portray, what's the use beyond admitting that some shows portray things certain ways for whatever reason? To avoid them? To be aware?
I don't want to argue with you, and if as a forum mod you can't discuss this with the understanding that we're all equal and dealing with, as Ra warns when sharing a president's catalyst, the same catalyst. Then I politely suggest you refrain from posting here, or on any thread about sexism as you've already said quite enough to make me feel unwelcome. As have others on this forum, from both sides of the creator's genders. And I suggest anyone whom wants to prove their point over moving towards reconciliation of these pains that they should consider refraining too.
We all know this pain, some more than others, does that make some more or less valid than others?
Can we please move away from these critical views of each other?
I don't want to view anyone as sexist but it's not being made easier, and in leiu of Aion's remarks, I understand it's hard to love people who inflict pain. I'm telling y'all now, I want to discuss how we can view their soul over their 3D actions, and how we all can find forgiveness in this way of those who have hurt us or others. So that we can begin healing what I am beginning to suspect is the most painful catalyst for this forum.
So Jade, right or wrong, I don't know, both, neither. I don't want to argue about sexism, I want to work together to heal it, and to create a new example of how to handle it.
If no one else is ready for that, then I will take my leave as it will be folly on my part to put myself through this stress. Just know I forgive you and others for many hurtful opinions you have of me as a male and things done to me for being a male. I just hope others will do the same.
Jade, all I can say is you perceive things differently from I, and I don't think that's worth arguing over. I will admit that I was emotional, but you seem to have one view over any other that the male is one way and the female another way.
The most sexist thing I recall from Star Trek is the Ferengi race's culture. Which in DS9 eventually is reformed to provide Ferengi women equality after a few hiccups with the grand nagus first by the prophets then by Quark and Rom's mother whom while dating the nagus helped him revise the Rules of Acquisition or at least Ferengi laws regarding women thanks to a woman breaking all the rules and pushing still even in a culture as prejudiced as that on Ferenginar.
No show is devoid of those stereotypes completely I think, so to argue media influence one way or another is beside the point to me because unless we go censor every show with something bad to portray, what's the use beyond admitting that some shows portray things certain ways for whatever reason? To avoid them? To be aware?
I don't want to argue with you, and if as a forum mod you can't discuss this with the understanding that we're all equal and dealing with, as Ra warns when sharing a president's catalyst, the same catalyst. Then I politely suggest you refrain from posting here, or on any thread about sexism as you've already said quite enough to make me feel unwelcome. As have others on this forum, from both sides of the creator's genders. And I suggest anyone whom wants to prove their point over moving towards reconciliation of these pains that they should consider refraining too.
We all know this pain, some more than others, does that make some more or less valid than others?
Can we please move away from these critical views of each other?
I don't want to view anyone as sexist but it's not being made easier, and in leiu of Aion's remarks, I understand it's hard to love people who inflict pain. I'm telling y'all now, I want to discuss how we can view their soul over their 3D actions, and how we all can find forgiveness in this way of those who have hurt us or others. So that we can begin healing what I am beginning to suspect is the most painful catalyst for this forum.
So Jade, right or wrong, I don't know, both, neither. I don't want to argue about sexism, I want to work together to heal it, and to create a new example of how to handle it.
If no one else is ready for that, then I will take my leave as it will be folly on my part to put myself through this stress. Just know I forgive you and others for many hurtful opinions you have of me as a male and things done to me for being a male. I just hope others will do the same.