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    12-13-2017, 06:09 PM
    (12-13-2017, 06:06 PM)Dante776 Wrote:
    (12-13-2017, 03:59 PM)Aion Wrote: Personally I don't really see the 'balance' in the OP. It wasn't about "people", it was about men being sexually harassed and seemed intentionally polarized that way. Why not just talk about sexual assault as a phenomenon in general as opposed to focusing on one or the other gender? "Why aren't men fighting back?" is a highly polarized question.

    Elros Wrote:[...] If you blocked on the first three words of the title to judge the content of the thread, then it makes sense it went into a fighting climate when it wasn't so much about fighting but how fighting back is denied for men when it would be rightful for them if they were women in the exact same circumstance. If I had to give my impression, I think that if soul A was in life #1 an abused woman you'd give full support to fight back, but if soul A in life #2 was an abused man you'd invalidate the desire to fight back on the same scenario.

    Aion Wrote:I think it's somewhat strange how you guys are saying men are denied fighting back, while also bringing up the point that sexual harassment claims have increased from men? Isn't that what 'fighting back' looks like?

    Like the NBCNews article stated, "Many labor experts say men are less likely than women to speak up about such cases of harassment for fear of being mocked by coworkers, and even fewer would take the charges to a government agency and risk widespread knowledge of their plight." The first ever court case involving sexual harassment of a man in the workplace was in 1995. That's not that long ago.

    Moreover, men aren't making it a public spectacle as women have been doing. They are not making the front pages of newspapers and magazines. They are not being featured on major television networks, i.e. talk shows, radio, social media, protests, etc., and used as sexual misconduct scandals in the political arena to oust fellow politicians. And when I say "fight," I don't mean in any skullduggerous manner. I simply mean putting up a more rigorous public defense for some of these people and calling for less firings and terminations until due process has been met out.

    As others have been saying, balance [on the part of the media] should be given to both sides or else there's an agenda afoot.


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    I am also very curious who all of these men are who have been 'tried by the media' and fired and their families ruined. I've read of only a couple cases where that has happened, certainly not the throes of men the OP seems to be suggesting.

    Here's one article for starters. It lists a timeline of more than 40 sexual misconduct scandals against high-profile men since Weinstein.

    From Weinstein to Lauer: A timeline of 2017's sexual harassment scandals
    http://www.ajc.com/news/world/from-weins...zeB9yN2JK/

    So is it your opinion then that many of these men are innocent?

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    Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Dante776 - 12-07-2017, 08:00 PM
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    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Dante776 - 12-10-2017, 10:06 PM
    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 12-07-2017, 11:15 PM
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    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Aion - 12-09-2017, 12:39 AM
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