Confederation and meat consumption

[Jade]

I think Ra was very clearly talking about preservatives added to meat, and likely dairy would also fit the bill of "animal protein". If you read the quote in context, as well as the other quotes talking about suggested diet, Ra doesn't say anything about preservatives in vegetables causing harm to anyone.

So you concede that they were referring to preservatives, rather than meat itself?

And plenty of meat doesn't have preservatives added. I have friends that catch and eat fish, no preservatives whatsoever. And it keeps fairly long in a deep freezer. But you're right that is generally not true in a market setting (though there are exceptions). I would argue this is also true with vegan food products (unless you are going full raw).

And even if you do make the case of it being an allergen. Is everybody allergic to peanuts? Is everybody allergic to milk? Of course not.

So why would it make any sense to include that part of Carla's specific dietary advise in the general dietary guidelines that would apply to everyone?

It seems you are willfully ignoring some very clear statements by Ra. Ra says preservatives added to meat, not preservatives, so your initial supposition that "that includes vegan food!" really came from nowhere. If Ra meant preservatives period, Ra would have worded things a bit differently. The initial statement was a caution about the "complex proteins", and when asked to clarify, that is when Ra modified the "complex proteins" with "slaughtered and preservatives". Ra also says that allergies are caused by inharmonious vibrations with the planetary sphere - it makes sense that Wanderers can absorb/feel the pain/stress of the beings that they are eating. And it's plain fact that 75% of incarnate humans are measurably lactose intolerant. This is literally an allergy to an animal protein.

If you read the quotes in full, in order, they tell a story. They say Carla (and all others) are best distorted towards health by the eating of vegetables and grains. Later they clarify that it's because Carla's body is "allergic" to meat, and this is what causes her distortions towards ill health. This seems to be a part of the same statement, IMO. I know that's an extrapolation but I do not believe it is stretching the meaning of what Ra was saying at all, to then presume that all humans are somewhat allergic to "complex proteins" that have been "distorted" and "slaughtered" and "preservatives added to maintain to acceptability of this non-living, physical material". I mean I know I'm biased but it seems clear to me what Ra is saying.

Basically, we wouldn't have to add preservatives to meat if it was killed it any way that resembled ethical or sustainable or if we just consumed "to the extent needed for the individual metabolism". But since they are slaughtered en masse, in completely disgusting facilities, for pleasure and not sustenance, this food would be completely rancid before it even got on a truck. Obviously people who raise and kill their own food have a different experience.

My husband slaughtered his own chickens once. Someone had given him broiler birds and they were dropping dead at a couple months old, as they do, so he tried to mercifully kill them. However, he couldn't deal with it after he ground them up, so instead of feeding his friends to the dogs like he intended, he left them in a sealed bucket for two days. When he opened the bucket, it was full of maggots. He stopped eating chicken after that but the grocery store illusion kept him buying other meat.

As Jeremy said, you can always disagree with the Confederation! But I am of the opinion that Ra is quite clear about what we should and shouldn't eat. Ra was telling Don and Jim to watch Carla and make sure that Carla only eats meat/animal protein in small quantities, and only if it's super fresh (which I'm sure, ironically, was somewhat easier to obtain back in 1982) - and only to the extent needed for her metabolism, which I presume ideally would be none.

I think this ties in perfectly well with what Q'uo says about "poisoned/tainted" food in the other thread, actually. "To the extent needed for the individual metabolism" seems to be Ra's way of saying "The complexity of the interrelationship between the physical vehicle that is so weakened in certain aspects, combined with the mental quality of feeling that certain foodstuffs are advantageous when they are perhaps counter-productive, then with the combination of personal catalyst of what you would call a “disharmonious nature,” provides a certain stew of a mixture that is responsible for the phenomenon of the mass subjugation of the immune systems of many of your peoples who have basically weakened physical vehicles due to dietary choices and mental choices of unrelieved disharmony, shall we say." Or, we should quit telling ourselves that we "need" this highly distorted, slaughtered, non-living physical material that, in the very least, requires an allergen (preservatives) to maintain acceptability. "Mass subjugation of the immune system" seems to me to be a nudge subconsciously to the "Mass subjugation of (insert a vital and unique piece of second density here)". As, the physical is inseparable from the metaphysical, so that which we do unto others is done in turn unto us. Hence why service to others beings are "allergic" to "mass subjugation", or, possibly "allergic" to:

[31.14]The choice of stimulus is certainly the choice of the entity. In the case of which you speak, these entities were strongly polarized orange ray, thus finding the energy blockage of power over others, the putting to death being the ultimate power over others;