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    02-01-2018, 05:28 PM
    I think looking at how we 'think' about 'food' will help here

    Our meals should be decided by nutrition foremost and comfort secondly.  Eating is a passionate thing for humans, we've made complex social and cultural rituals around the dinner table.  Saying praters before meals, or merely thanking meals (ikadakimasu (not sure I spelled that right)), as well as complex gestures to others by the giving of food or making of food.

    We all probably have favorite meals.  I'm not too shy about deep dish mushroom pizzas, or flavored shaved ice.  But a meal is typically categorized as a 'course', appetizer, entree, dessert.  This is most notably a dinner course, lunch may have an appetizer, but breakfast is most notable.

    Eggs, ham, bacon, steak, no appetizer.

    Our meals are structured even, breakfast, brunch, lunch, dunch, dinner.

    We have a food pyramid and food groups.  They don't even bother mentioning the variety of concerns regards each group.
    Vegetables will have pesticides and other cides on them as will fruits.  Grains are pretty bad for the Body long term.  Sugar is destructive.  And meats are heavily acidic, probably because they're decomposing flesh pumped full of preservatives.

    I don't know if a plant suffers as much as a animal, I like to think not, but perhaps all manner of consumption is traumatic.  Death is well intertwined with life, we kill to live, whether by uprooting a carrot or hunting an animal.

    With that said, a balance is necessary, ecologically especially.  Humanity is wiping out insects, mammals, amphibians.  Causing extinctions.  Destroying the land and sky and oceans.

    Our desire for 'more' for 'bigger' for 'better' are driving us to consume excessively, and our poor management of that excessive foodstuffs (see: plants and animals) ends up being thrown out.  That chicken died and became KFC food, but didn't sell the day it was made, oh well throw it out.  Not like a human being is starving and would eat a day old piece of chicken or the animal killed for that food is dishonored.

    Our food is treated with great disrespect.  All of it mostly, even plants.

    And worst of all most of it is handled in such a way as to make it poisonous in small amounts.  Herbicide, pesticide, contaminated soil, poorly designed GMO's (an entire thread's worth of a discussion right there).

    We should educate people to the importance of food, to respect our food instead of excessively produce it then trash a good amount of it.

    There is enough food produced now to feed everyone on the planet, too bad places like America and Europe take much of that food and waste it.

    Imagine that guys, an animal not only slaughtered to be food, but doesn't even get ingested, just thrown out.  Wasteful, and extremely dishonorable to the animal who made that sacrifice against its will.

    I remember Diana pointed out a Native Indian relationship with the buffalo.

    That relationship honored the life taken and the land the blood was shed upon.  Those animals in spirit knew they were helping humanity survive.

    If we could educate people of that basic respect for life and land, maybe in generations to come factory farming may come to an end.

    The UN encourages a plant based diet.

    Plants undoubtedly are less harmed by being harvested and further are overall healthier.  Meat is consumed excessively, all those burger commercials with that hot chick eating the burger probably didn't help.  All those fast food commercials probably didn't help.

    You cut into an onion it spurts its juices into the air and makes you cry.
    You cut into an animal it juts blood and screams, and hopefully you cry.

    There's not much argument who feels more suffering.

    But instead of that, we argue about if a tomato and a cucumber are fruits or vegetables.

    We need awareness of the reality that is occurring, I'm not saying take a school bus of kids on a field trip to the local slaughterhouse, just inform them of what their food went through to get onto their plate.

    It starts with the upcoming generations, ours are too jaded, but if we can raise and educate the kiddos properly, they'll take care of the rest.

    Sadly I do not think anything present day will be enough to stop the business sector of factory farming.  The laws side with them more than life itself.  A business operating with death as it's main producer should be extremely scrutinized.

    What if aliens dropped down from the sky and saw our treatment of animals in those settings?  Would they start slaughtering us to show us what it feels like to be farmed by 'more intelligent' beings?  How would an alien culture perceive us?  If that answer isn't good, then things need to change.

    It's as simple as that to me, if we can't show the universe we're ready to participate mutually with life, we'll be isolated until we kill ourselves off for food after ruining all the water and destroying all the crops, and genociding animals endlessly until we view them as food more than life.

    When you look at a pig and see bacon, there's a problem, that life has not been respected.

    I feel that's what it comes down to.

    Education
    Respect
    Change

    Awareness falls under education.
    Respect should cause ample resistance to factory farming in future generations.
    Hopefully that'll incite change.

    We can't do much to legally save the animals now, but we can look to the future and make motions to make that future a healthier place.  For humans, animals, and plants, or basically, for Life.
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    Confederation and meat consumption - by Infinite - 01-29-2018, 02:14 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-29-2018, 03:06 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 11:16 AM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 01-30-2018, 03:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-30-2018, 03:39 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Aion - 01-30-2018, 04:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 01-30-2018, 08:53 PM
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