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    02-15-2018, 10:52 AM
    (02-13-2018, 07:16 PM)unity100 Wrote:
    (02-04-2018, 01:23 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: third density problems cannot be resolved with third density thinking

    That would be incorrect.

    Third density problems pertain to 3rd density, and their solutions also must pertain to third density.

    Because all of these, together, define the experience that is called 3rd density.

    In this particular topic regarding how it being difficult to give up meat due to the nature of 3rd density social complexes' social, psychological and spiritual pressure, the solution is right there in 3rd density as the problem, and it is the entity who decided to give up meat manifesting enough willpower to follow its decision against all pressure.

    Its not mystical, magical, otherworldly or other-dimensional - just uncomfortable and difficult.

    That's an interesting perspective. I guess it depends on how you conceive of the purpose of third density experience, what's central to it vs peripheral. 

    To me, a lot of the conflicts of third density society aren't meant to be "resolved". They can be resolved, and they are not intractable. The issue is what their purpose is: to provide catalyst for our development and not simply to exist for their own sake. And the end goal of that development in our particular sector is to move into fourth density social memory.

    It is true that I'm drawing a line between evolved third density consciousness and fourth density consciousness that is dubious at best. That may be a mislabelling. Whether the new thinking that solves these problems arises from third density or fourth density consciousness, it is still a different quality of consciousness. I'm certainly not going to go to the mat to defend a characterization of that consciousness that insists it must be of some exact vibration. Thanks for pointing that out!


    What I hear you saying, Unity100, is that they are problems that are meant to be solved in third density in order to progress on to fourth density. Do I have that right? I agree with you that it is "uncomfortable and difficult" to change the world, but isn't this how our social complex works--by exerting this uncomfortable pressure on everybody, and through all that aggregated individual pressure, it is made difficult for a new consensus to emerge? Isn't that right there one of the quandaries of third density? Just interested in your perspective here.
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    Confederation and meat consumption - by Infinite - 01-29-2018, 02:14 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Cyan - 01-29-2018, 02:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-29-2018, 03:06 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-29-2018, 03:46 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 11:16 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-30-2018, 02:38 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 01-30-2018, 03:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-30-2018, 03:39 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 01-30-2018, 08:53 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 06:55 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-31-2018, 04:13 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-31-2018, 05:09 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-31-2018, 08:47 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by unity100 - 02-01-2018, 10:59 AM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-03-2018, 02:12 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by unity100 - 02-13-2018, 07:16 PM
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