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    02-15-2018, 12:36 PM
    Thanks for bringing that Q'uo quote up. I don't know how you interpret that. I saw it as a suggestion to not take the stridency so personally, to see it as natural and healthy. Q'uo was informing us that we need to expect that the process of healing will be uncomfortable and involve momentary disruptions. If we can expect these disruptions and disturbances, we can be more prepared to mindfully address them and not simply fall back into old patterns.

    I did not interpret Q'uo to be prescribing any strategy of stridency and anger. Maybe you saw something in there that I'm neglecting?

    It's a tough thing to discuss. On the one hand, think of those times when your mind was changed. Was it changed because you feared the other party? Because they shamed you? Because they defeated you? Or because, even if they did all those things, they brought out something true within yourself that you had ignored or hadn't noticed? Was it really they who changed your mind from the outside, or was it you who changed your mind based on what they showed you within yourself?

    On the other hand, these energies are going to find expression, and at this point they are so ridiculously frustrated that there really isn't any very peaceful and sanguine outlet for them. It is absolutely correct that the fear and recoiling that those encountering these expressions experience is very much about their own issues. In dealing with these issues it may prompt that course correction of the cruise ship which takes so much time and effort, and therefore while it's not immediately satisfying, it still has to start at some time and place.

    So to me Q'uo was simply sketching out the situation, and giving us the tools so that we can help without being cowed by the intensity of it all. Hopefully we can use those tools to make an argument into a conversation, an insult volley into a true sharing of self, a stodgy stubbornness into an opportunity for insight.

    I don't think you're being shrill. My only recommendation would be to sympathize with the meat eaters more, because you'll be more effective in finding common ground that way, and we can't change the consensus until we find that common ground.
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    Confederation and meat consumption - by Infinite - 01-29-2018, 02:14 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Cyan - 01-29-2018, 02:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-29-2018, 03:06 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-29-2018, 03:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-29-2018, 04:39 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-29-2018, 05:33 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-29-2018, 06:02 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 11:16 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-30-2018, 02:38 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 01-30-2018, 03:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-30-2018, 03:39 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Aion - 01-30-2018, 04:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 01-30-2018, 08:53 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 04:18 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 06:55 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-30-2018, 11:32 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-31-2018, 04:13 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-31-2018, 05:09 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-31-2018, 05:38 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-31-2018, 08:47 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 01-29-2018, 04:05 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-29-2018, 05:39 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 02-02-2018, 12:54 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-02-2018, 04:58 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-02-2018, 07:28 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-02-2018, 09:13 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-03-2018, 02:12 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-03-2018, 12:27 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 02-03-2018, 06:21 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 12:57 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-03-2018, 03:19 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 01:35 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nicholas - 02-03-2018, 05:58 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 02:02 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 02-03-2018, 02:37 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 02:51 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 02-03-2018, 02:54 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 03:08 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 02:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 03:04 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 03:14 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 02-03-2018, 03:20 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 03:22 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by loostudent - 02-04-2018, 12:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-04-2018, 12:54 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-05-2018, 11:48 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-04-2018, 01:23 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by loostudent - 02-04-2018, 06:30 PM
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