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    02-15-2018, 04:32 PM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2018, 06:55 PM by xise.)
    Yeah, I think a big part of this is understanding where one another is coming from. Prior to being vegan, I was vegetarian for 10 years. Or rather to be specific, it was like 15 years with a few years of breaks where I ate meat. Perhaps because I've always been spiritual leaning and I was a philosophy major who particularly liked ethics, I always enjoyed discussing the ethics of meat eating, both when I ate meat (after being vegetarian for many years) and during my vegetarian years.


    During these discussions, I would always concede the point that eating meat was unnecessary and increased suffering, but that I just wasn't able to manage vegetarianism right then with all my stresses in life. I don't think I ever felt defensive about my meat eating because, for me, the ethical standpoint was simply true to me - the logic for the ethics of meat eating was infallible to me from a philosophical perspective - but I simply accepted that I wasn't perfect nor felt particularly loving, and moved on with my life.


    Now clearly perhaps for others don't see it in the same way philosophically - but the reason I bring this up is that because I was so easily able to concede that meat eating was increasing suffering in these discussions of 5-10 years ago when I was eating meat myself - I think I don't respect or as easily understand other people's defensiveness. And I think I could definitely become more loving and understanding by better understanding this defensiveness - or better yet by understanding what meat-eating people feel and think about all of this stuff because clearly my own thoughts, when I was a meat eater, seem pretty unique - so I really appreciate the overall conversation.
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    Confederation and meat consumption - by Infinite - 01-29-2018, 02:14 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Cyan - 01-29-2018, 02:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-29-2018, 03:06 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-29-2018, 03:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-29-2018, 04:39 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-29-2018, 05:33 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-29-2018, 06:02 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 11:16 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-30-2018, 02:38 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 01-30-2018, 03:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-30-2018, 03:39 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Aion - 01-30-2018, 04:34 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 01-30-2018, 08:53 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 04:18 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-30-2018, 04:42 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 06:55 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-30-2018, 11:32 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-31-2018, 04:13 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-31-2018, 05:09 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 01-31-2018, 05:38 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 01-31-2018, 08:47 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 01-31-2018, 08:48 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by isis - 01-31-2018, 01:13 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Louisabell - 01-30-2018, 04:53 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-30-2018, 05:17 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Louisabell - 01-30-2018, 05:26 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-30-2018, 06:49 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Louisabell - 11-04-2018, 01:39 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 01-30-2018, 07:13 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 01-29-2018, 04:05 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 01-29-2018, 04:30 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 01-29-2018, 05:39 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 05-03-2019, 09:03 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Aion - 01-30-2018, 03:08 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 01-30-2018, 03:25 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-01-2018, 10:54 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-01-2018, 11:57 AM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 03-05-2018, 02:38 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by unity100 - 02-01-2018, 10:59 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-01-2018, 12:08 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Glow - 02-01-2018, 01:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-01-2018, 03:35 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-01-2018, 02:28 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-01-2018, 02:56 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-01-2018, 03:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 02-01-2018, 02:45 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 02-01-2018, 05:19 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 02-02-2018, 12:54 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Minyatur - 02-02-2018, 01:53 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jade - 02-02-2018, 02:37 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by anagogy - 02-02-2018, 06:20 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by isis - 02-15-2018, 03:15 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 02-15-2018, 05:41 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-01-2018, 05:28 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by loostudent - 02-02-2018, 04:35 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-02-2018, 04:58 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-02-2018, 07:28 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-02-2018, 09:13 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-03-2018, 02:12 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-03-2018, 12:27 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 02-03-2018, 06:21 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 12:57 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-03-2018, 03:19 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 01:35 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nicholas - 02-03-2018, 05:58 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 02:02 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 02-03-2018, 02:37 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 02:51 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 02-03-2018, 02:54 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 03:08 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 02:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 03:04 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-03-2018, 03:14 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 02-03-2018, 03:20 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 03:22 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 03:16 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by loostudent - 02-04-2018, 12:25 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-04-2018, 01:08 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-03-2018, 03:29 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-03-2018, 05:06 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nicholas - 02-03-2018, 06:40 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Glow - 02-04-2018, 11:37 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by loostudent - 02-04-2018, 12:46 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Jim Kent + - 02-04-2018, 12:54 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-05-2018, 11:48 AM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-04-2018, 01:23 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by loostudent - 02-04-2018, 06:30 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 02-04-2018, 06:43 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-04-2018, 02:31 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-05-2018, 03:05 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Glow - 02-05-2018, 03:25 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Diana - 02-05-2018, 04:28 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 02-05-2018, 04:31 PM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by rva_jeremy - 02-05-2018, 05:23 PM
    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by Nía - 02-09-2018, 05:12 AM
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    RE: Confederation and meat consumption - by xise - 02-14-2018, 04:59 PM
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