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    Thread: I'm choosing the negative path.


    Minyatur (Offline)

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    02-21-2018, 08:42 PM (This post was last modified: 02-22-2018, 04:18 PM by Minyatur.)
    (02-21-2018, 02:47 PM)peregrine Wrote:
    Elros Wrote:I don't really separate entities by sto and sts, is not sts in the end merely a state an entity can find itself into for a time?

    I can literally just look at their Higher Self (like they too can) to see them outside their blockages and negative polarity. Which brings us back to what was my initial point that you commented upon, which I'll try to express more clearly, that one can't erase their light and instead only abstract it in their awareness for a time.

    I personally identify with Creator, and so negative and positive are states I can find myself into as both self and other-selves in different moments held together as one moment.


    Ah, I see now that we are talking past one another for reasons other than what I stated.  Was your ascension to identification with the Creator sudden or did it come about in discrete stages?

    I guess both sudden and discrete stages, kinda like finding yourself and realizing it.

    (02-21-2018, 02:47 PM)peregrine Wrote:
    Elros Wrote:Why do you want so much to see honored what wants to honor nothing?

    I feel that way because Darkness is an integral aspect of Creation as well as of the path of spiritual growth, and facility in working with such should be honored.  Take the Matrix of the Spirit, for example.  You can see the light in that if you wish, but to gain from the experience of it, darkness is what's there and it may just not care to honor anything else.  Failing to honor it, however, might be a mistake.

    The only way I'd associate negative polarity with Primordial Darkness is by considering polarity altogether as a play of Light (perception/knowing) and Darkness (non-perception/not knowing).

    Polarity, both positive and negative, is more intimately tied to Light. There are many on the negative path that seek to return to a state of Primordial Darkness (non-perception), but they do so as Light rejecting Light, and also without understanding that Primordial Darkness whole is of itself the root of all Light, and so of what they reject. The gateway to Primordial Darkness is where Light is whole truly. It can only be reached without resistance and that is why the negative entity has to repolarize to resolve the Octave, because otherwise it of its own will keep itself here in not wanting to rejoin with Light Whole, not that positive entities don't face the same exact struggle but they're more focused on getting there despite their many resistances.

    (02-21-2018, 04:34 PM)Louisabell Wrote: You also don't polarize negative much unless your supplicants serve you out of their own freewill, therefore you don't accumulate Karma. Don't you think negative wisdom is a whole different course of study than wisdom which seeks to liberate? The technical details to progress can be very different.

    I think negative polarity in itself can be defined as a karma, of which the weight is faced in full when liberating one's own positive potential, to then be distilled through work of acceptance into positive polarity. What you call being without karma, is first of all, simply delaying that work by making it weight more (my digging a hole metaphor), and also misses that other-selves are self and so you're not really exempt from anything. I think a point I've tried to make, perhaps indirectly, is that repolarizing from negative to positive is not any joyful or small task, you're much more likely to go through a point you wished all you had as a negative effect had been focused upon your own self alone a billion times more strongly than you'd have wished you had effected any single other-self, following this comes acceptance and the perk of being positive is that you process these things one at a time and not accumulating literal freaking eons of it (exception be made of lower densities which serve this role). Maybe I'm misusing the term but to me Karma is tied in Unity as a unified fate, so the term doesn't make sense to me to be applied into seeing everything as separate, except I guess through focusing on sub-aspects of what it is when moving through illusionary constructs, which implies missing the greater scope of its dynamics. There's an aspect to Karma that relates to individual lessons, which plays with what you attract as a self, but there's also another aspect that you do live the cause and effect of yourself, which at our level we merely see ourselves as experiencing consciously the extension of the first distortion (first aspect), but also in the greater picture which adds literally everything that makes all things whole and united always.

    To me the difference between two selves is not so much unlike the difference between you in two moments, which is all the more true regarding negative entities as they literally are able to see their own future self having found to be positive again. I also think nothing simply becomes a negative entity, at first it took confused-exploration to be perceived as a potential and now in addition to confusion there is the potential to absorb the karma of it from without. I think there even are positive entities that make the choice to go negative because they understand doing so as taking the karma of negativity upon themselves, in positive intent they allow themselves to lose sight of their light and become one with the already existing negative energy and their distortions.

    I think you can't really not make it a karma, because as a self you can become negative through series of events while as an other-self you become positive through living different series of events. Polarity never defines a being, not anymore than being fat or thin defines any human's entire life. They're karmic states of a cause and effect greater than them.

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