Wisdom and Free Will

[Ali Quadir]

You can actually discover things that were not true before you discovered them. You're not actually learning them but defining them as you go along. I expect this was a convenient analogy for Ra. For example, you can discover the roll of a dice. But it did not exist before you discovered it.

basically, the awareness of what was there, was lacking. the fact that 'that being there', does not remove the lacking of the awareness about it.

The presupposition here is that it was there before discovering it. Which is not always the case, certainly not in a quantum mechanical universe which we happen to inhabit.

then its worse for the other argument.

if they were not there before they were 'discovered', then what discovered them did not have them from beforehand.

therefore, the discoverer was not infinity. in infinity, all things must be present.

All things, even the non existent

the roll of dice, rolled and came out, the state of it having come out like that, the state of it having come out in all its other faces, and the infinite numbers of states in which the roll of dice balanced on one corner, and in infinite angles, and infinite numbers of cases in which roll of dice never happened due to any reason, and infinite other states involving dice, whatever else was participating in the act,

are found in infinity.

Wait..

So that means that in your vision. The learning process is not a return to the infinite state. Every step of learning according to the dice example you give above discards things that could other wise be learned.

If you agree, that learning one thing potentially makes it impossible to learn a specific other thing. And yet that all things exist in infinity. Then I think for once we can agree. Which would be unique

What I called the discovering by creating, and you call discovering by learning from that angle can be seen as the same thing. Before we continue and add to the distortion/confusion. Do you see the same possibility?