Clarity on STO please

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But perhaps it's par for the course. After all, Hatton went 4D positive after their 3D society basically reduced their civilization to rubble with a worldwide war, to paraphrase the l/l channeling on the subject, and Hatton specifically states it was because of the interaction of survival fears versus just letting go of those survival fears in order to fully embrace others and share the very limited resources so that more can survive. Maybe there's much more to this red ray issues springboarding into strong polarization than we realize.

That is interesting, I did not know this about Hatton. Ra also had a difficult existence when in 3D.

Thanks goes to rva_jeremy for finding the Hatonn origin story and making a thread about it. Here's a link to the L/L channeling with it. Here's the relevant part:

Sunday Meditation

November 16, 1980
(Unknown channeling)
Tonight we have been successful in contacting a new instrument and we are pleased that he was going to step out on his faith. We of Hatonn are willing to adjust our being if it is difficult to discern for this instrument. We will pause for this purpose. I am Hatonn.
(Pause)

I am Hatonn, and I am again with you. We have adjusted our being and we feel that we are more closely aligned with this instrument. At this time, we would like to share with you a story of our past.
At one time, we of Hatonn were a warlike nation in that, although united as one planet, we were divided into many sects that strove to dominate or control the planet. We chose to combat one another in our efforts to achieve this control, however, none were able to dominate and all were weakened by the struggle. Finally a point was reached in which we of Hatonn were destitute. We had destroyed all of the resources that our planet had to offer and were unable to kill one another simply because we no longer possessed the raw materials from which to construct further weaponry. At this point, we had also destroyed our food chain and were near starvation. In many ways we were, at that time, very similar to you as your planet is today, fixed upon oblivion.

We discovered that our survival as a priority superseded all other priorities and that the requirements for survival became very obvious: regard each man or woman as one’s own brother and share with that brother as you would with your wife or husband or child. Our decimation became, in this manner, our strength. In our choice, in our choosing to reduce our planet’s ability to support life, we inadvertently chose a very strenuously spiritual path, that of loving through forced sharing. Perhaps this may not sound very spiritual to those listening to our words, however, then we learned that sharing was more valuable than surviving. We obtained a vibration level that enabled us to both sustain our bodies and at the same time, progress beyond physical needs.

We share this story with you not in pride, obviously, but in encouragement. Small though your numbers may be, those of you who have grown beyond your brothers in your desire to love and share will be able in destitution and poverty and in starvation to mold and guide the growth of your race but only if you keep faith with your feelings. We feel that it is necessary to encourage you at this point because the time draws near when your strengths will be called upon and tested severely. Many of those strengths in many of you are already being tested at this time.

We love you in the manner of brothers who can only watch and encourage and advise you as you grow and we desire that your growth be rapid and as painless as is possible. However, what you call growing pains will occur and are occurring now that you may adapt yourselves to the experience of pain without taking the pain within and clinging to it as one would a valuable jewel or possession. All things pass, as will your pains even if they pass as a result of your death on the physical plane. Do not let this death or these pains worry you. They are merely tools with which the universe shapes the final product which you so desire to become. I am Hatonn.

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Now that I reread it, it sounds pretty intense: "We destroyed our food chain and were near starvation...We discovered that our survival as a priority superseded all other priorities and that the requirements for survival became very obvious: regard each man or woman as one's own brother...We obtained a vibration level that enabled us to both sustain our bodies and at the same time, progress beyond physical needs." 

Maybe all's well that ends well, even if the learning involves some catastrophic war that ends millions or billions of lives? After all, our souls are eternal, so this is just one big physical reality simulation, at some level. Don't know if I 'feel' I agree with the logic of these last few sentences, but I 'think' I agree with them.