(05-09-2018, 01:55 PM)genkaku42 Wrote:(05-09-2018, 01:38 PM)Elros Wrote: The thing is that the Mystery is not intelligence of itself, but intelligence remains an abstraction of exactly It. The Mystery is not a thought but the potential for thought, which all thought reflect. While the Mystery is not any single construct, it is all of them still and so all constructs do speak of It.
Mystery has no awareness of itself, thats what Ra told us, of course that's because it is beyond all concepts and awareness/intelligence is just a concept among others.
Consider the Creator as Mind, Souls and the universe as Thoughts. The Mystery is beyond Mind. So obviously we cannot use Thoughts to go beyond Mind. Anything you can think of, talk about, that you can imagine is just Thoughts. You will never be able to explain the nature of the Mystery which is beyond Mind.
The Mystery is the 'Mother' of the Infinite Intelligence/One Infinite Creator/Mind.
Mystery/Tao/Godhead (Nonduality) --> Creator/God (Mind) --> Multiverse/Souls (Thoughts)
All constructs do not speak about it for it is beyond it, thats why the Creator is Eternally seeking it's source, the Mystery (Its true nature) to no avail, for no contructs cannot speak of it.
Do Finity reflect Infinity? No, Finity just tell us that 'I am not this'. But what is true Infinity? True infinity cannot be defined, for as soon as you define it you have limited it, and it lost its 'infinity'.
So all constructs/concepts/ideas/things show us what the True nature of Mystery is NOT; by negation; the Mystery is not Finity; thats the closest we can get by concepts.
A lot of what you said goes along what I wrote, so I'll try to aim at what I see that does not. You seem to want to limit the Mystery, when I believe it is transcendant (non-dual) to limits (duality).
To take your box analogy, you seem to imply that the box is apart of the Mystery, when it cannot be anything other than a part of It. There is no Mystery without the box, there is the Mystery confined and unconfined by the box, both within and without it as dual aspects of what it is, yet also transcendant to it as non-dual in that the box is a distortion of the Mystery rather than the wholeness of the Mystery, it is an abstraction of It and so cannot be dissociated from It to the same extent it cannot be said to be reflecting It whole. The box abstracts the Mystery, without the Mystery there is also no box, they're together and not apart.
To take back the example of Finity and Infinity, they are not concepts that you can dissociate from one another either because they are mutually exclusive. Finity cut off from Infinity is a paradoxical thought, all that you can consider finite is actually the infinite, they're both the same. Infinity is Infinite-Finity as Finite-Infinity, this is pretty much the Law of One.
All dualities are like this, it's always one and the other and both and neither all together. The Mystery is transcendant to separation, which makes of any separation a distortion of what is transcendant to it. No distortion reflect something that the Mystery is not, for the Mystery is the Source of all distortions.
You cannot speak of the non-dual through separating, that is making it dual and limited, it is the important aspect to transcendence that it includes and is not without. The box is a side of the coin that is the Mystery, it is not it whole but it isn't something other either for that would make the Mystery finite rather than infinite.