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    08-26-2018, 07:45 PM (This post was last modified: 08-26-2018, 07:46 PM by Glow.)
    (08-26-2018, 04:15 PM)Hoothef Wrote:
    (08-26-2018, 11:06 AM)Glow Wrote:
    (08-24-2018, 05:26 PM)loostudent Wrote:
    (08-23-2018, 11:22 PM)Hoothef Wrote: I was taught in Christianity that women who wore pants deserve to be in hell.  How Christians believe that Jesus takes away their sin, is the real issue, because it takes responsibility of the self for ones own karma.

    I know that some more conservative Christians prefer longer skirts for women but above doctrine about pants sounds more like an extreme sectarian teaching. Jesus taking others karma upon him (sola fide) is a great dispute between churches. There are different interpretations of individual responsibility and transmission of karma.

    Jumping into this convo.

    1. I have over the years rubbed shoulders with a lot of fundamental Christians who basically believe everyone but them are going to hell so it isn't just a Muslim thing. I see it very much how the world works. For one to be winners others must lose. Separation consciousness at work. Why would any one of love/compassion want another punished? That is not understanding or forgiveness but the perpetuation of karma. Judge not lest the be judged.

    2.There is no folly in Jesus's offer to take on others karma. It is the magic of oneness that when we see each other as one we can heal and forgive on each others behalf.
    It is occult magic and there is much of it in the bible.

    The sacrament of that magical working of Jesus supposes on the teaching of his followers being "the body of Christ" -one with him, and he knows he is one with god.

    The prayer during the mass where the congregations takes of his symbolic body, and blood and they become the body of Christ enables him to forgive them of their sins because they are now accepting their oneness with him. Judge not lest the be judged and he doesn't.

    I personally hope his magic works, we have punished ourselves and each other enough.
    The way out is love/compassion/forgiveness of sins(errors) outside the veil we are one. We are one now.

    I really need another cup of tea. Heart
    ““Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, and drive out demons in Your name, and perform many miracles in Your name?’ Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Get away from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’””
    ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21-23‬ ‭TLV‬‬
    Magic is expressly forbidden in the message given to us from the prophets. Trusting in anything other than the creator to forgive sins is one of the greatest sins in Islam considered shirk. The blood sacrifice occultl magic that you talk about is only in the Bible of parts that the (apostate) Paul wrote and Jesus (peace be upon him) never claimed to be a blood sacrifice. To trust a story over a message to save you is contrary to the message always given in consistency to the prophets. And the day of judgment will come to us all and if we are trusting in a man-made story given to us by someone who was not even present with the supposed creator of the universe that has a physical form to pay to our actions you see that Jesus, peace be upon him, is explicitly states that many people will call him Lord and he will still judge them based on whether or not they obeyed the law. Jesus explained the tahweed very clearly when he said “hear oh Israel the Lord our God is one.” To call anything as equal with god is to introduce a duality and to worship a prophet is a form of idolatry. The only thing that will help you on the day of judgment, is you knowing the law and submitting to that law which was given to everyone that is on the planet now. Jesus was sent explicitly to the Jews peace be upon him. Muhammad peace be upon him, was sent to the whole of humanity to clear up the mistakes that the Christians listening to Paul and other occult magicians corrupting the language and religion from the inside out. Jesus was sent explicitly to the Jews peace be upon him. Muhammad peace be upon him, was sent to the whole of humanity to clear up the mistakes that the Christians do to Paul and other occult magicians corrupting religion from the inside out by using pagan belief systems instead of pure view of monotheism given by all true prophets. Did we obey the law relayed to us by God through his holy prophets sent to us for all ages? You see how Christianity has paved the road to hell with a false hope as people trust in the blood of Jesus to cover sins. Find Jesus once in the gospels talking about the power of his blood to cure sins. That’s all conjecture based on Paul who was trying to make sense out of something he was not a part of. Paul is not a prophet in fact if the scriptures tell us anything about him it’s that he was blinded and the story when told by Paul is different both times (which is clear warning by Luke in acts that the religion had been distorted.) Paul is (just) a scholar that’s it and people take his letters as law when we know that Jesus says if we don’t forgive others neither will our Heavenly Father forgive us. Jesus explicitly stated to a man asking how to enter eternal life: “And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.”
    ‭‭Luke‬ ‭10:25-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬ the word of the prophets is very clear and not something that is invalidated by one posing apostle. Claiming: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
    ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    I cannot say more than enough times that it is by works that we save ourselves from the cycle of death. How many Catholic priest think that Jesus paid for their pedophilia?

    I wasn’t really commenting on either religions understanding/view of magic.
    This isn’t a religion forum so I was relating it to what we believe here which is the Law of One.

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    My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-27-2017, 06:29 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by YinYang - 07-27-2017, 08:27 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-27-2017, 09:15 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Aion - 07-27-2017, 10:46 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-27-2017, 01:56 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by xise - 07-27-2017, 08:37 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-27-2017, 10:41 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by xise - 07-28-2017, 12:18 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Diana - 07-27-2017, 11:42 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by xise - 07-27-2017, 01:55 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-27-2017, 01:58 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by xise - 08-10-2017, 04:33 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Glow - 07-27-2017, 02:40 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-27-2017, 02:48 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by unity100 - 07-29-2017, 05:43 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by APeacefulWarrior - 07-31-2017, 02:30 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-31-2017, 04:51 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 07-31-2017, 04:57 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Spooner - 08-09-2017, 04:16 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 08-09-2017, 05:04 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by unity100 - 08-09-2017, 09:46 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 08-10-2017, 04:24 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-11-2017, 01:36 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Spooner - 08-10-2017, 02:00 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-11-2017, 01:43 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 08-11-2017, 03:16 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-11-2017, 04:52 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Spooner - 08-11-2017, 11:37 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by AnthroHeart - 08-11-2017, 09:10 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-11-2017, 12:17 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Spooner - 08-11-2017, 03:16 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-11-2017, 03:31 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 08-11-2017, 03:57 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-12-2017, 01:53 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Spooner - 08-11-2017, 04:50 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cainite - 08-12-2017, 07:25 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Hoothef - 08-22-2018, 10:28 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by loostudent - 08-23-2018, 04:51 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Hoothef - 08-23-2018, 11:22 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by loostudent - 08-24-2018, 05:26 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Hoothef - 08-25-2018, 04:07 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by loostudent - 08-25-2018, 06:38 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Hoothef - 08-26-2018, 07:07 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Glow - 08-26-2018, 11:06 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Hoothef - 08-26-2018, 04:15 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Glow - 08-26-2018, 07:45 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by loostudent - 08-28-2018, 07:44 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Glow - 08-28-2018, 05:31 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by flofrog - 08-28-2018, 06:44 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Glow - 08-28-2018, 07:43 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cyan - 08-23-2018, 06:11 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Stranger - 08-23-2018, 11:11 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Hoothef - 08-23-2018, 11:24 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Cyan - 08-24-2018, 08:37 AM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by AnthroHeart - 08-28-2018, 06:50 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by flofrog - 08-28-2018, 06:53 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by Glow - 08-28-2018, 07:44 PM
    RE: My experience with Islam - by AnthroHeart - 08-28-2018, 07:46 PM

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