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    Thread: Regarding the One Infinite Creator


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    09-05-2018, 07:44 AM
    22: Anything that follows from some attribute of God
    when it is modified ·or enriched or added to· by a quality
    which that same attribute causes to exist necessarily
    and to be infinite must itself also exist necessarily and
    be infinite.
    The demonstration of this proposition proceeds in the
    same way as the demonstration of 21. [21 concerns
    the likes of: what follows from God’s being extended.
    22 concerns the likes of: what follows from God’s involving
    motion and rest; this is not extension as such,
    extension considered ‘absolutely’, but it necessarily
    follows from extension.]
    23: Every mode that exists necessarily and is infinite
    must have followed either from •the absolute nature of
    some attribute of God—·that is, some attribute taken all
    by itself·—or from •some attribute that is modified, ·i.e.
    enriched or added to·, by a quality that exists necessarily
    and is infinite.
    A mode is in something other than itself, through
    which it must be conceived (by D5), that is (by 15) it is
    in God alone and can be conceived only through God.
    So if a mode is thought of as existing necessarily and
    being infinite, it must be inferred from or perceived
    through some attribute of God that is conceived to
    express infinity and necessity of existence. It may
    follow from •the absolute nature of the attribute—·the
    unadorned attribute, so to speak·—or from •the attribute
    modified or enriched or added to by some mediating
    quality which itself follows from the attribute’s
    absolute nature and is therefore (by 22) necessarily
    existent and infinite 24: The essence of things produced by God does not
    involve existence.
    This is evident from D1. For if something’s nature
    involves existence, is its own cause, existing only from
    the necessity of its own nature, ·and so cannot be
    caused by God·.
    Corollary to 24: God is the cause not only of things’ beginning
    to exist, but also of their continuing to exist.
    If we attend to the essence of any caused thing—
    not considering whether the thing actually exists or
    not—we shall find that this essence involves neither
    existence nor duration. So such an essence can’t be
    the cause either of the thing’s coming into existence
    or of its staying in existence; and the only cause of
    both is God (by the first corollary to 14).
    25: God is the efficient cause not only of the existence
    of things but also of their essence.
    Suppose this is wrong. Then God is not the cause
    of the essence of things, and so (by A4) the essence
    of things can be conceived without God. But (by 15)
    this is absurd. Therefore God is also the cause of the
    essence of things.
    Note on 25: This proposition follows more clearly from 16,
    which implies that from the given divine nature both the
    essence of things and their existence must necessarily be
    inferred; and, in brief, God must be called the cause of
    all things in the same sense in which God is said to be
    self -caused. This will be established still more clearly from
    the following corollary.
    Corollary to 25: Particular things are nothing but states of
    God’s attributes, or modes by which [= ‘ways in which’] God’s
    attributes are expressed in a certain and determinate way.
    The demonstration is evident from 15 and D5.
    26: A thing that has been caused to produce an effect
    has necessarily been caused in this way by God; and one
    that has not been caused by God cannot cause itself to
    produce an effect.
    [The demonstration of this is omitted.]
    27: A thing that has been caused by God to produce an
    effect cannot make itself be uncaused.
    This proposition is evident from A3.
    28: A particular thing (that is, a thing that is finite
    and has a limited existence) can’t exist or be caused
    to produce an effect unless it is caused to exist and
    produce an effect by another cause that is also finite
    and has a limited existence; and the latter can’t exist
    or be caused to produce an effect unless it is caused to
    exist and produce an effect by yet another. . . and so on,
    to infinity.
    [Somewhat simplified version of the demonstration:] Anything
    that follows necessarily from something infinite and
    eternal must itself be infinite and eternal; so something
    that is finite and has a limited existence—that
    is, a finite item that comes into existence, lasts for
    a while, and then goes out of existence—can’t be an
    upshot or effect of something infinite and eternal. So
    its source must be of the other sort, that is, must be
    finite and non-eternal. And that line of thought reapplies
    to the latter item, and then to its source, and
    so on ad infinitum. Each finite and temporally limited
    item is to be thought of not as •something entirely
    other than God, but rather as •God-considered-ashaving-
    such-and-such-attributes-and-modes.
    Note on 28: Certain things had to be produced by God
    immediately, namely those that follow necessarily from God’s
    nature alone, and others. . . had to be produced through the
    mediation of these first things. From this it follows:
    I. That God is absolutely the proximate cause of the things
    produced immediately by God, and not ·a proximate cause·
    in God’s own kind, as they say. For God’s effects can neither
    be nor be conceived without their cause (by 15 and 24C).
    II. That God cannot properly be called the ‘remote’ cause
    of singular things (except perhaps to distinguish them from
    things that God has produced immediately, i.e. that follow
    from God’s absolute nature). A ‘remote’ cause is one that
    isn’t conjoined in any way with its effect; but every existing
    thing is in God, and depends on God in such a way that it
    can’t exist or be conceived without God.
    29: In Nature there is nothing contingent; all things
    have been caused by the necessity of the divine nature
    to exist and produce an effect in a certain way.
    Whatever exists is in God (by 15); and (by 11) God
    exists necessarily, not contingently. Next, the modes
    of the divine nature—·the ways in which God exists·—
    have also followed from that nature necessarily (by
    16)—either •following from the divine nature just in
    itself (by 21) or •following from it considered as caused
    to act in a certain way (by 28). Further, God is the
    cause not only of the existence of these modes (by
    corollary to 24) but also of their having such-and-such
    causal powers. For if they hadn’t been caused by
    God, then (by 26) they could not possibly have caused
    themselves. And conversely (by 27) if they have been
    caused by God, it is impossible that they should
    render themselves uncaused. So all things have been
    caused from the necessity of the divine nature not only
    to exist but to exist in a certain way, and to produce
    effects in a certain way; and all of this is necessary,
    not contingent. There is nothing contingent.

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    Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by KevinAir - 09-03-2018, 05:46 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Foha - 09-03-2018, 06:04 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by KevinAir - 09-03-2018, 06:53 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by smiLie - 12-26-2018, 08:39 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Tae - 12-27-2018, 03:56 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by KevinAir - 09-03-2018, 07:07 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Sacred Fool - 09-03-2018, 08:09 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by KevinAir - 09-03-2018, 08:29 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Foha - 09-03-2018, 08:18 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Jocie - 09-05-2018, 07:23 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Jocie - 09-05-2018, 07:26 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Jocie - 09-05-2018, 07:31 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Jocie - 09-05-2018, 07:34 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Jocie - 09-05-2018, 07:44 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Jocie - 09-05-2018, 07:46 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by KevinAir - 09-03-2018, 08:23 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Stranger - 09-04-2018, 03:51 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Nau7ik - 09-04-2018, 08:47 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Stranger - 09-04-2018, 11:34 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Nau7ik - 09-05-2018, 08:56 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by flofrog - 09-04-2018, 07:44 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Stranger - 09-05-2018, 01:48 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 09-05-2018, 09:58 PM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by flofrog - 09-06-2018, 01:13 AM
    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by loostudent - 09-08-2018, 08:28 AM
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    RE: Regarding the One Infinite Creator - by KevinAir - 02-02-2019, 08:14 PM
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