(12-10-2018, 03:10 AM)Cainite Wrote:(12-09-2018, 05:28 PM)xise Wrote: I believe guilt is a non-polarizing distortion that both paths leave behind. The positive path endeavors to accept and forgive universally, that includes the self, and guilt results from an inability to do so after realizing that one made a mistake. The negative path obviously has no guilt.How is this lack of emotion balanced enough itself, to be called a higher state of being?
The difficulty comes in because our society and often our early experience has seen the power of how even non-polarized distortions can do make stuff happen in the real world (such as Ra says love of tribe as self, or automatic love of one's extended family is my extension - the common society belief that extended family comes first). Just because a distortion can make stuff happen in this world (ie, good things can come from one feeling guilty), does not mean it is a concept that is useful for work in higher states of being.
(12-09-2018, 07:46 PM)Zach Wrote: "89.40 ▶ Questioner: What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into fourth-density negative and, the veil being removed, they realized that they had switched polarities?
Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted."
I meant: why wouldn't these positive wanderers eventually regret their negative actions at some point after becoming negative during the incarnation.
I believe there probably was tremendous emotion - they were disconcerted, as Ra notes, upon learning they graduated 4th density negative. Definitely sadness (which I believe to be a relatively undistorted emotion). Hopefully also love, understanding, acceptance and forgiveness. I know I would be disconcerted and upset in such a situation.
But to start on a deeper discussion of guilt let's go over several things.
1. (A) Definition of Guilt
2. Ra's Quote on Response of a Perfectly Balanced Entity
3. Ra's Quote on No Right or Wrong
4. My Own Experiences with Healing the Distortion of Guilt as a Workable Concept
(A) Definition of Guilt
Basically, a distorted form of sadness that believes there was a wrong outcome because of the self that reflects poorly on the individual self.
Note that I find shame to have a similar definition - Basically, a distorted form of sadness that believes there was a wrong outcome because of the self that reflects poorly on the soceital self.
Also might be useful to say that for discussion, I would define regret as a form of sadness that believes they did things differently in the past - although I'm sure regret is definitely less distorted than guilt or shame, I think it might be a relative pure form of sadness and be relatively undistorted - or it may not be, I have yet to ponder regret fully, but it definitely doesn't seem to hold one back the same as guilt or shame.
Ra's Quote on Response of a Perfectly Balanced Entity
Quote:42.2 ▶ Questioner: I will just read it very rapidly the question, then.
I am going to make a statement and ask you to comment on its degree of accuracy. I am assuming that the balanced entity would not be swayed either towards positive or negative emotions by any situation which he might confront. By remaining unemotional in any situation, the balanced entity may clearly discern the appropriate and necessary responses in harmony with the Law of One for each situation.
Most entities on our planet find themselves unconsciously caught up into every emotional situation which they come in contact with according to their own unique biases and because of these biases are unable to see clearly teach/learning opportunities and appropriate response in each emotional situation and must therefore, through a process of much trial and error and enduring of resulting pain repeat such situations many many times until they become consciously aware of the need to balance their energy centers and thusly their responses and behaviors. Once a person becomes consciously aware of the need to balance their energy centers and responses the next step is to allow the appropriately positive or negative responses to emotional situations to flow smoothly through their being without retaining any of the emotional coloration after it has been consciously observed and allowed to flow through the being. And I am assuming that this ability to consciously observe the positively or negatively charged energy flowing through the being may be augmented by practice of the balancing exercises you have given us with the result in balance being achieved for the entity which would allow him to remain unemotional and undistorted in regards to the Law of One in any situation much like the objective viewer of the television movie.
Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is an incorrect application of the balancing which we have discussed. The exercise of first experiencing feelings and then consciously discovering their antitheses within the being has as its objective not the smooth flow of feelings both positive and negative while remaining unswayed but rather the objective of becoming unswayed. This is a simpler result and takes much practice, shall we say.
The catalyst of experience works in order for the learn/teachings of this density to occur. However, if there is seen in the being a response, even if it is simply observed, the entity is still using the catalyst for learn/teaching. The end result is that the catalyst is no longer needed. Thus this density is no longer needed. This is not indifference or objectivity but a finely tuned compassion and love which sees all things as love. This seeing elicits no response due to catalytic reactions. Thus the entity is now able to become co-Creator of experiential occurrences. This is the truer balance.
Quote:42.4 ▶ Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other-self?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.
42.5 ▶ Questioner: In the illusion that we now experience it is difficult to maintain this response especially if the entity’s attack results in physical pain, but I assume that this response should be maintained even through physical loss of life or extreme pain. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and further is of a major or principal importance in understanding, shall we say, the principle of balance. Balance is not indifference but rather the observer not blinded by any feelings of separation but rather fully imbued with love.
So some discussion. For the perfectly balanced entity, the response to all things is love, not indifference. Love includes all the sub-types of love; understanding, acceptance, forgiveness, as well as many others. Now perfectly balanced entities probably are impossibly rare or don't exist, so even highly positive entities have some part of them that feels hate, rage, guilt etc in response to things, but in a near balanced entity, it's a minuscule part of the response. So many people on Earth use shame and guilt as the primary response to certain catalyst, and it does get things done - you hear people say all the time : "I felt guilty so I did X" "I felt ashamed so I did Y", but that sort of thinking and motivation drops away at higher states of being as the distortion of shame and guilt are recognized as not useful nor especially loving.
3. Ra's Quote on No Right or Wrong
Quote:1.7 ▶ Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]
Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.
That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.
In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.
May we enunciate this law in more detail?
Recall that for most definitions of guilt or shame, they include the concept of one doing wrong. But right and wrong do not truly exist, even if in non-polarized 3D the concepts of right and wrong get a lot of work done, they too are concepts that are no longer useful in higher states of being. Also of importance to note is that the Law of One specifically notes you are every situation, every event, and every emotion. If you truly are every event, how can not everything that occurs be divine and without judgment?
My Own Experiences with Healing the Distortion of Guilt as a Workable Concept
So the Orange Sub-Indigo or the Indigo Sub-Orange energy rays relate to one as having infinite self-worth because you are literally the Creator. The Creator is divine, you are divine, you cannot do right or wrong, you can only do. There is no judgment. There just is the experience. This has been my most recent personal deep realization - I know we read about it all the time that we are the Creator, but when I had that realization in response to processing some guilt, man, I felt grace or divinely happy for 2 days straight and couldn't keep a smile off of my face lol. It was great. I hope to eventually get to a point where I can live in that state for longer, but at the moment, the illusion does feel pretty real. Time for more meditation!
