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    Thread: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids


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    12-29-2010, 04:43 AM (This post was last modified: 12-29-2010, 05:09 AM by unity100.)
    (12-28-2010, 04:52 PM)Protonexus Wrote: I recognize your thoughtforms pertaining to this subject. You perceive that the disconnected humans are limited in their abilities of collective perception and processing - this is linear thinking - the separation of processing units to identify and exploit their qualities without considering (or being able to consider) the affect upon the whole mind/body/spirit archetypes of the galaxy and multiverse.

    yes. actually similar examples are found right on this planet. ant colonies. it is also suggested recently that, there is a global ant colony from a certain species of ants, acting consistently across all the globe even.
    (12-28-2010, 09:27 PM)zenmaster Wrote: In order to have "linear thinking", you have to determine cause-effect relationships. In order to determine cause-effect relationships, you have to evaluate. This evaluation process is filtered through a knowledge base (one's experience) composed of artificial dualities.

    "thinking"-directed cognitive evaluation views the linear-emergent qualities of whole to part, while "feeling"-directed cognitive evaluation views the circular-emergent qualities of part to whole. Thinking is "causal' - that is, setting up a chain of events, while Feeling is "acausal" or how the chain may be linked.

    Cognitive understanding is obviously developmental.

    the fine detail here is that, in the case of mind/body/spirit, the thinker (entity) is also the creator of the reality, in infinitesmall bits.

    so basically, when we take a situation in which this individual thinker/creator is isolated from all others, the situation becomes linear, because there is only what you create, and what you see in front of you, and there is little evaluation to be done in regard to what may end up just a few moments later, due to effects coming from other creating cpus.

    in the case of a collective, however, like when all entities are connected, each cpu is aware of what the other is creating as a whole. and the whole network would be 'just knowing' what the resultant vector would be at any given locale, due to infinite eyes, infinite brains not only observing and evaluating the situations in front of them directly and sharing, but also creating the reality they are in.

    with that, it would be inevitable to start having synchronicity and other similar 'nonlinear' dubbed sitautions.

    actually, the synchronous situation would have resulted from infinite numbers of infinitesmall creators/thinkers creating infinite conditions, which could be called linear. but, when you sum up all the results that the collective, harmonized network creates, it naturally feels as if it was something 'nonlinear' to the individual cpu/computer.

    this is how i see it. it is in the most base level, however, when the creative faculties are put in, such a network would basically be defining its own reality, time and space.

    Quote:In developmental psychology, Jean Piaget developed a stage theory that showed the changes in cognitive process and abilities of children. The stages are:

    1. Sensorimotor
    2. Preoperational
    3. Concrete Operational
    4. Formal Operational
    ..............

    there is a catch here though - the progression of development of a child, is basically the body complex developing and becoming capable to manifest in the physical reality of the planet. it is not a defining factor of the mind per se, however, its limitations for manifesting.

    moreover, a goodly part of these limitations, come from societal biases, which have nothing to do with the physical capabilities of the body complex.

    these limitations start to kick in when the kid starts to perceive society and society starts conditioning it.

    Quote:Steiner reported that in a higher state of consciousness a different kind of space is experienced that is polar opposite to our ordinary Euclidean one. Such a consciousness [a] looks in the from the periphery towards an unreachable inwardness in contrast to our normal consciousness [b] which looks out from a centre towards an unreachable outwardness, i.e towards an outer infinity.

    Consciousness type [a] corresponds to the psychological faculty of feeling and consciousness [b] is the faculty of thinking.

    curious. then, with this approach, would the interactions in between entity and the outer space and the results of these interactions in regard to feelings would be happening in the outer plane, and inner plane, respectively ? the consciousness looking towards outside interacts, and the consciousness looking towards inside, feels ?

    Quote:o Through feeling we experience the underlying whole against which 'objects' of our
    perception (gestalt 'figures') are relevated:

    o Everything distinguishable in experience is interconnected, embedded within a
    total-whole that penetrates and envelops it.

    o The experience-qualities of this total-whole are the feelings and emotions.

    o The properties of the circle, the cycle, continuity, wholeness

    o Time is inherently "now", not characterized by events
    zen consciousness

    o Subjective / Inside

    o Change seen as an aspect of the whole in relation to the part

    [b] The perception of space via thinking (view from space to time):

    o the properties of the line, seperateness, discreteness

    o Stage or container concept for particles. Larson's "unit".

    o Time unfolds as a linear succession (past-to-future) of discrete events

    o Euclidean geometry


    o Objective / Outside
    Aristotle - "the cosmos (or Reality) exists independently of us and our consciousness"

    o Change seen as an aspect of the part in relation to the whole

    these seem to be in sync with my approach.

    the only exception is that, the creating of the reality that they are in, is missing from the above list.

    Quote:What is interesting is that in 3rd density the objective or spatial component of mind seems to be emphasized at the expense of the temporal component of mind, in a person having thinking-dominant/feeling inferior bias. However, the opposite is also true with the feeling-dominant person, where the subjective or temporal component of mind is emphasized at the expense of the spatial component of mind. Traditionally science, in its need for an objective interpretation, tends to have the former (i.e. thinking-dominant) approach, while mysticism, in its need for a subjective interpretation, is using the latter (feeling-dominant) approach.

    plausible.

    Quote:Apparently, at the "subtle" (Ra's 4th Density) level of experience, thinking and feeling become the same thing - that is both aspects of are equally available to the experiencer (i.e. In 4D there is no genetic or environmental "personality type"-bias, so personality is not defined by psyche-faculty access modes).

    The harmony of the thinking and feeling can be thought of as the "nondual" (Ra's 6th density) experience - where apparently differentiation and integration (i.e. as thinking and feeling) are able to exist (in mind) simultaneously.

    i dont think 4d is the place that happens. i very much think that it is a balancing process that continues way until end of 7d. and not only affects the psyche, but also reality too.

    i think its basically the uneven distribution of space/time and time/space. when these two become evenly distributed, thought becomes form and form becomes feeling, and the perfect infinity is attained.

    Quote:The 3rd-density objective or spatial component of mind seems to be emphasized at the expense of the temporal component of mind. This contributes to the separating experience (the veil) that the mystics (like Krishnamurti) have transcended to some degree. Non-dual states (of "post trans") are also examples of transcending these "asymmetric default settings".

    plausible.

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    UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Focus123 - 12-25-2010, 04:58 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Ashim - 12-25-2010, 06:31 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by jivatman - 12-25-2010, 01:48 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Focus123 - 12-25-2010, 03:00 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-25-2010, 05:19 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Focus123 - 12-25-2010, 07:07 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Monica - 12-25-2010, 10:41 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-26-2010, 02:58 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Monica - 12-26-2010, 04:14 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Focus123 - 12-26-2010, 04:44 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Crimson - 12-26-2010, 12:42 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Peregrinus - 12-26-2010, 01:34 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Monica - 12-27-2010, 02:33 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by jivatman - 12-26-2010, 06:04 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by zenmaster - 12-26-2010, 06:59 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by jivatman - 12-26-2010, 08:48 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by zenmaster - 12-26-2010, 10:23 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-27-2010, 03:41 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by zenmaster - 12-27-2010, 10:17 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-27-2010, 10:48 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Ali Quadir - 12-27-2010, 11:11 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-27-2010, 11:44 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Monica - 12-27-2010, 02:50 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by zenmaster - 12-27-2010, 09:39 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Monica - 12-27-2010, 09:51 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by zenmaster - 12-27-2010, 10:30 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Focus123 - 12-27-2010, 10:24 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Ali Quadir - 12-27-2010, 12:02 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-27-2010, 12:24 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Focus123 - 12-27-2010, 12:20 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Aaron - 12-27-2010, 12:46 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Ali Quadir - 12-27-2010, 12:53 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-27-2010, 01:09 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Monica - 12-27-2010, 04:36 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-27-2010, 02:40 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Aaron - 12-27-2010, 10:17 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-28-2010, 06:06 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by zenmaster - 12-28-2010, 09:27 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Protonexus - 12-28-2010, 06:59 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-28-2010, 10:29 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Protonexus - 12-28-2010, 02:54 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-28-2010, 03:27 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Protonexus - 12-28-2010, 04:14 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-28-2010, 04:28 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by thefool - 12-28-2010, 11:58 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Protonexus - 12-28-2010, 04:31 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-28-2010, 04:44 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Protonexus - 12-28-2010, 04:52 PM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-29-2010, 04:43 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Protonexus - 12-29-2010, 05:50 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by unity100 - 12-29-2010, 05:57 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Protonexus - 12-29-2010, 06:11 AM
    RE: UFO's/Abductions/Hybrids - by Ashim - 12-30-2010, 04:28 AM

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