Session 89 - Two Negatively Polarizing Wanderers

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The difference is that we are all here in discussion. Presumably, we accept the idea, since we are here to discuss, that others' opinions may be given.

I really don't see us all being here incarnated on Earth circa 2019 and "crossing paths" as any different than us all "being here in a discussion forum" in terms of the level of consent required to use the spoken or written word in the presence of other selves.

The other difference is attachment to outcome.

Certainly, becoming attached to outcomes is a potential hazard of interacting with others.  But I'm not sure why you see this as a difference between myself and Minyatur, or why you would choose to insert yourself into this perceived difference- unasked for- to ostensibly make a point of how important the asking is.

If Minyatur speaks of what he sees, I'm fairly certain he is not attached to an outcome; he is expressing what he notices.

As far as I am aware, Minyatur has not authorized you to speak on their behalf.  And so I can only accept this comment to the degree in which your offering of it gives me information about you , and not about Minyatur.

A Zen slap, from what I can gather from this discourse, comes with an attachment—that the person being slapped "gets" whatever it is that the person doing the slapping tells them.

It's not clear to me how you have gathered this from the discourse at hand, however yes I would say if one gets hung up on the other person "getting something" in particular then that would be problematic.

Maybe sharing a story about a person I am close to was confusing, because yes in that particular instance I was/am feeling attached to them "getting something" because their behaviors were/are infringing on my personal space, as well as that of a child entrusted to my care.  Probably not a great example, in retrospect.

On the other hand, it is always, in my opinion, okay to speak your truth as long as there is no attachment to outcome.

Yes- I think in the case of what would otherwise be a "random" interaction with another, it is relatively easy to hold a space of non-attachment.