Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts?

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I think martyrhood denotes a imbalances in the orange ray, which distorts the perception of other-selves into what they are not (unlike the self). For example a lack of self-esteem tends to make one step upon themselves, because there is a belief that others are of greater value and so "by serving these others" the self believes itself to find worth. That is clearly not green-ray love.

I think because the STO is the path acceptance, some believe it to mean it is the path of self-denial, which it is not so. A bit like how the material states that true forgiveness has to include the self, true love for others has to include the self and true acceptance has to include the self, there is no belittling of the self in green ray and that is more obvious when you realize that the self is simply the incarnation of others that you are the closest to, the one with which you are the most intimate. Acceptance is a whole circle and it starts with what you are closest to, the self. If you can't accept the things you contain, then you cannot accept them sincerely in others either.

I can get the idea of wanting to be a martyr, but I think that falls away when you realize that a lot about being STO is inspiring others and belittling the self is not what you would want to inspire someone you love. Then again, it may not make sense for someone that struggles with the orange ray.

I think if there is a total absence of sense of victimhood, there may be something that could be confused with martyrhood, but that is not martyrhood, that can take place, as death is always just transformation. But you would have to see it as that it is your own choice for yourself, which denies becoming a symbol for a cause.

Anyway, like always, if you resolve self and other-selves as that they are truly one, paradoxes may fall away.

Agreed. Seems that so many problems arise from this illusory boundary between self and other.

Yet so many of our esteemed "spiritual" guides and mentors are steadfast in that there is something to be gained by little game we set up for ourselves, what with the veil, and all the attendant dogma about karma and "learning lessons" and using suffering as a teaching tool.

Personally, the only lesson I see here is the one which would result in souls permanently turning away from playing insane little games of separation, and rejoining the Creation at large, already in progress.