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    Thread: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts?


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    05-17-2019, 06:59 PM
    I think sometimes we use "martyr" in quite an extreme way. As Minyatur said, a lot of what we consider as "martyrdom" is orange ray blockage - not anything to say about the green ray. Just because someone is selfless doesn't mean that they are a martyr.

    The reason Ra warns Carla about being a martyr is because she was literally willing to die each time she went into trance, so devoted she was to making Don happy. This was probably a bit of an extreme mental configuration and this gave the negative 5th density entity a strong distortion to work with.

    Quote:To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body. You may extrapolate from this.

    A martyr then is someone who would give away all their food so that they wouldn't have any, and would then starve to death or severely malnourish themselves. Someone who is an ascetic and donates a lot of time/energy/money to help others... this is not martyrdom, until it begins to detract from their quality of experience. If they feel like a martyr, like they are sacrificing so much that it is causing them discomfort, then so begins the path of giving until one has none left for themselves. If they recognize the infinite nature of energy and reality, and are able to operate from a position of selflessness without depleting the self, this should be celebrated and not scorned, dopamine or not.

    The dopamine hit you speak of would be a consequence of "this logos has a bias towards kindness", imo... a small reward for a good deed. The real reason is that because when you do good for one, you do good for yourself, too. So there is a point to be made that a selfless act is never truly selfless, but as long as it is made in unity and not separation, then it is good and encouraged. In fact I'm kind of confused, was the point of your OP to discourage others from doing good deeds, or cause them to confuse selflessness with selfishness?

    We have to clear the energy centers seriatim, which means in order from red to indigo. Until we truly understand the energy of the heart chakra, we shouldn't be advocating the use of wisdom over love in our veiled experience - it's a dangerous configuration, imo.

    Quote:To answer your second question more fully we may say that it is correct that radiation without the necessity of response begins with blue ray although the green ray, being the great transitional ray, must be given all careful consideration, for until transfers of energy of all types has been experienced and mastered to a great extent, there will be blockages in the blue and indigo radiations.
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    Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 02:03 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-17-2019, 02:23 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 02:29 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by krb - 05-17-2019, 02:41 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 04:19 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by AnthroHeart - 05-17-2019, 03:09 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Cyan - 05-17-2019, 03:18 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-17-2019, 04:59 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 05:39 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by speedforce131 - 05-17-2019, 06:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-17-2019, 07:38 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Diana - 05-21-2019, 12:50 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-17-2019, 05:54 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 06:25 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by I am Shayne - 05-17-2019, 05:55 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Merrick - 05-17-2019, 06:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Merrick - 05-17-2019, 06:21 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by krb - 05-17-2019, 06:54 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-17-2019, 06:59 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-17-2019, 09:08 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by krb - 05-17-2019, 09:54 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-18-2019, 07:18 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Foha - 05-17-2019, 10:08 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-18-2019, 07:24 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 07:44 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-18-2019, 09:14 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 09:51 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by ada - 05-18-2019, 10:00 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 10:10 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 11:09 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Diana - 05-21-2019, 01:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 10:34 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 10:40 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by ada - 05-18-2019, 11:12 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 11:18 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 11:32 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-18-2019, 02:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-18-2019, 05:16 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by RitaJC - 05-19-2019, 06:30 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by unity100 - 05-21-2019, 12:28 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-21-2019, 01:29 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-21-2019, 07:49 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-21-2019, 08:16 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-21-2019, 08:50 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-21-2019, 09:09 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-21-2019, 09:13 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-22-2019, 12:54 PM

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