06-24-2019, 12:00 PM
(06-22-2019, 05:07 PM)Ray711 Wrote: Some psychologists
That doesnt make a case. Psychology itself feels the need to prove why it should be considered a science today. That's because it lacks empiricality to great degree, and its analysis, explanations and methods do not have universality and cannot be demonstrated to reach the same conclusions or the same results in different times they are applied.
Therefore...
Quote:In the case of mass shooters, the objective is very clear. They want to restore the self-esteem that they lost
...it cant be certainly concluded that that's their objective. We dont have a proper conclusive analysis of a 'healthy' human, actually we dont even have a definition of it. Making such sweeping conclusions as to the psychology of those unstable people like mass shooters is way far out...
Quote:As for the point of determinism, Ra themselves state right after the picnic analogy that free will does indeed choose polarity:
Quote:19.17. Questioner: Can you tell me what bias creates their momentum toward the chosen path of service to self?
Ra: I am Ra. We can speak only in metaphor. Some love the light. Some love the darkness. It is a matter of the unique and infinitely various Creator choosing and playing among its experiences as a child upon a picnic. Some enjoy the picnic and find the sun beautiful, the food delicious, the games refreshing, and glow with the joy of creation. Some find the night delicious, their picnic being pain, difficulty, sufferings of others, and the examination of the perversities of nature. These enjoy a different picnic.
All these experiences are available. It is free will of each entity which chooses the form of play, the form of pleasure.
And the entity chooses what its deep psyche, its spiritual biases compel it to.
And even if it chooses differently, it will eventually converge its choices in the compatible direction.
Can the entity choose a polarity that is incompatible with its deep spiritual bias and even complete entire octave like that?
Unlikely.
But that's what you are expecting. You think that the negatively biased entities can and should override their inner spiritual bias through free will.
Quote:They seem to be contradicting themselves in the same answer. However, given that 3d is called the density of The Choice, and that Q'uo very often speaks about one's will being what determines one's desire, mirroring Ra's words, I'm inclined to believe that polarity is far from being something of a deterministic nature
That's what you are interpreting to satisfy your approach.
Free will manifests according to the inner spiritual bias of the entity. It is not something that just overrides it externally as if coming from outside, or above.
Mind is a projection of the spirit, and body is a projection of the mind. The overall entity which manifests in that body, decides on which action to take through its mind complex, therefore manifests free will by choosing its actions.
Yet that significator that acts is part of the greater entity, which manifests through the body complex, then through the mind complex, which comes from the spirit complex.
You are suggesting that that entity could 'just' override its innate spiritual bias through the mind complex by making different choices.
It will. Then in the long run it will twist its choices to according to its spiritual bias.
Quote:STS entities are distanced from and in repression of their emotions? Without a doubt. As Ra says, STS is the path of control and repression, beginning with the self. STS entities, by definition, are not prone to identifying and honoring their own emotions and feelings. They walk the path of that which is not, and this path by necessity involves by-passing and denying a very real part of themselves: the heart chakra. Having denied a part of themselves, they turn to another energy center, the yellow ray, and focus on it to the extreme in an attempt to make up for what was lost.
And they are perfectly happy with that, since its their choice and its their decision per their spiritual inclination...
You wont be able to persuade them to the folly of that choice by advocacy.
Quote:I don't think we can really understand such situations completely without more information than what Ra gave us.
But you are making exacting conclusions on other matters which are even more complex, and on things which are even spiritual fundamentals. It sounds like you are just veering to obscurantism because the example above does not support your perspective.
Quote:I can only say that an STS entity that has exclusively walked that path, probably knows nothing about what the positive path feels like.
That's incorrect. Every entity is provided all kinds of experiences until a spiritual bias makes itself apparent, as Ra explains. No entity graduates 3d without knowing all the varieties of emotions of what you would consider positive or negative emotions.
They do. And they make their choice.
Quote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not so naive as to think I can walk into a viper's nest and change everything with my love alone. There are individuals so far down the STS path, having chosen that trajectory incarnation after incarnation, that it'd be extremely difficult to convince them of the ways of love, if not downright impossible. But what I feel you are dismissing is that we are indeed beings of love.
'We' are everything. We are not beings of love as such narrowly defined. We are beings of hate as well as beings of love, we are beings of sorrow as well as beings of joy. We are everything.
Trying to ignore and invalidate one part of the infinity wont produce results.
Quote:The TLOO very clearly states that STS entities are by-passing and denying their heart chakra. Don't you consider it relevant that at 6th density they reactivate it and start enjoying the joy of oneness and companionship?
Except the catch is they activate the heart chakra in mid 6d environment, an environment of unity. They dont activate it in the polarized manner of 4d positive. Or 3d positive, or even 3d unpolarized environment.
At that point, the green ray as you define being a being of love is balanced with the blue ray sufficiently that it provides for the indigo which unifies all.