The mystery of the Creator's existence

[Stranger]

I have a follow up question to the issue of the Creator's existence.  Allow me to phrase it.  I do understand that the concepts my mind uses to attempt to understand the Creator are, themselves, the Creator's invention and, therefore, cannot be used to get at the necessary depth of the Creator's being.  "Existence" is one of these concepts.  Am I correct so far?

Entirely correct, please continue.

What I find surprising is that, whenever I ask any "higher" or unveiled being about trying to understand how it is that, shall we say, there is something instead of nothing, I get in reply some version of "of course the Creator exists, otherwise you wouldn't be here".  The fact of the Creator's existence is almost equally obvious to me at this point as it is to you, so these replies miss the point of my inquiry.

I am also surprised that you have never been curious about - not whether the Creator exists, but, "how come?"  By 'exists' I meant, by the way, something beyond the conceptual framework that grounds existence - rather, the fact that even apart from the constructs of "existence/nonexistence" the Creator IS THERE prior, shall we say, to its consideration of these constructs.  Do you understand my question?

I understand it *perfectly*, [Stranger].  I shall attempt to answer it.
Existence is not only a construct created by the Creator, and you are right in explaining it as you have.  That is the truth. What I want to point out to you is that even for me, [Stranger], it is entirely impossible to answer the deeper question which you are asking: "why the Creator?" - is that correct?

Yes indeed.

"Why not?" is my answer.  Since we are here - or appear to ourselves to be - then it is clearly a fact that the Creator is.  How or why he is is a mystery beyond comprehension, that is the truth. 

Does the Creator know?

Yes, I suspect he does, [Stranger].  But he's not saying because, perhaps, it cannot be put into words.  That is the truth, [Stranger].

Is my curiosity about this legitimate?

Legitimate in what sense?

In the sense of it not being a stupid question based on ignorance?

Yes and no.  I don't think your question has an answer that can be given in words or even experiences, because as you have discovered, experience itself is a construct and quite a complex one.  Therefore, perhaps I shall say that it is a futile question rather than any other moniker you may use to describe it.  Does that help?

Is anything about “why the Creator?” accessible to you, whether in words or any other means of conveyance? 

No, [Stranger], and that is the truth.


So then this is our dead end?

Correct, and I am sorry to say that this is so.

Okay, at least that helps me more clearly understand where things stand.

[Some thoughts on all of the above:


This seems to be a fairly lucid explanation of Ra's statement that 'everything begins and ends in mystery', and why this is so. 

It seems to me that if a hypothetical digitally created character in a computer simulation were to ask, "why is there anything at all?" and to attempt to investigate that question, that character would only be able to investigate the source code of his reality, but *never the hardware*, which would forever remain a mystery that cannot be explained using the constructs to which it has access. 

As far as I'm concerned, it is entirely possible that the Creator itself exists within a simulation, while we are in a simulation within a simulation (and quite possibly, within simulations infinite layers deep).  The main point of the above for me has been this: the Creator has being apart from *its own* creation of the constructs of being/nonbeing.  That opens the door to the possibility that the Creator itself has deeper origins.  Or maybe not and I'm just stacking my little colorful play-blocks wrong in my little toy human mind.  Either way, I find it useful to know that there is a legitimate mystery here, vs "the Creator just is, end of story."]  Adonai.