(01-13-2011, 10:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Communism failed, socialism is failing. That money-less Star-Trek society sounds great, but it's hollow. Remember, the very nature of 3d is separation (from self) of some kind.
communism failed ? how so ?
socialism failing ? how ?
Quote:Remember there is not only a problem with wealth distribution, but also a problem with wealth creation. We can certainly each encourage opportunity growth by merely realizing that we are an integral part of a larger society.
the problem with wealth distribution, is the problem that underlies the society. wealth is power, and its unequal distribution eventually nullifies the equal distribution of votes in democratic political side of the societal life. when you need money to get elected, the ones with the money or money backing get elected.
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200 Years of Global Growth in 4 Minutes
that presentation was criticized for excessive optimism. not only that, but it also ignores the human aspect of society in that it accounts for growth of economies, however it doesnt analyze how the wealth is distributed and used for what ends at all. not to mention that, it takes a lot of the socialist countries in europe into its example, however even if unintentionally, ends up portraying their success as proof of the existing system.
http://www.google.com/search?q=human+dev...=firefox-a
this would be a more proper evaluation index.
(01-13-2011, 11:10 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(01-13-2011, 10:58 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: Given how Ra described 3rd density Venus we didn't need any of the horrible history we've had on this planet, it's just disgusting.An homogeneous population (i.e. lack of transplants - confused or otherwise), abundant resources, and temperate climate, for example, go a long way towards alleviating potential survival concerns and competition pressure. After survival concerns are addressed, there tends to be the leisure time to philosophize and harmonize.
remember that the 200 year wanderer wave had incarnated for that very purpose. for bringing technology and methods to give free time from survival to people. this had lead to the age of enlightenment and age of science. these are, now, however being given as proofs of the success of the current system, as if the system was what brought them about. but, we know better due to Ra material.
moreover, similarly too, the alleged successes of the system in lifting the minimum point of comfort compared to middle ages is also attributed to the system. whereas, it actually didnt matter what kind of system a civilization had, as long as wanderers such as these incarnated to give technology and information proliferated. its not the first time either, it happened in atlantis here too.