Can you accept being a loser in this world?

[EvolvingPhoenix]

Let's be real here.

If you're going to start off a post with "Let's be real" you are expected to follow it with honest content that comes from a place of reality. Let's see if what follows counts under the "real" category of content, shall we?  

You can not win in the physical world by acting in a way that resonates with higher densities.

AND right off, the bat, you drop the ball. That was fast. You are just making excuses for something you may just sim-ply not care about. In which case, the reason you should give yourself and others for not pursuing it would be: "I do not care enough about material success to chase material success" not "I can't have material success while acting in accordance with higher (positive polarity) densities" While material success may NOT be important to higher positive densities, this does not mean material success precludes you from positive behaviour. Now, there is also the possibility that you ARE motivated by material success and you are lying to yourself about it's importance to you, in which case YOU ARE NOT ACTING IN ACCORDANCE TO HIGHER (positive) DENSITIES, because denying material success only because you feel it "isn't in accordance with higher densities" is basically just following some bullshit rule. Completely disempowering. Disempowerment is NOT "in accordance with higher densities"IMMEDIATELY, you bullshit us, RIGHT AFTER starting off the post with "Let's be real" Amazing.


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EDIT: Also, I SWEAR I remember a part in the LOO channelings where Ra warns Carla that her choice to impose impoverished limitations on herself was not most productive towards positive seeking. if somebody can help me find this part of the Channelings, please feel free to post it, because I am having trouble finding it.

Anyway...
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Well, it's a long post, and we are just getting started. Let's continue, shall we?

We know that's true for worldy things.

Uhh. No. We do NOT "know" that. It is your opinion, not a fact.

Of course there are two kinds of winning.

If you say so.

One is winning in this world and one is winning in the other.

FALSE DICHOTOMY.

You can not tell me it is possible to have both.

Yes I can. I'm telling you that right now. You are presenting a false dichotomy that you impose on yourself and acting as if it is some sort of law of reality that applies to everyone when the truth is, you are simply making excuses for not even attempting it, when you seem to desire it. If you don't care to, no need to justify it then. If you do care to, excuses do not help you.

And if you WANT to succeed materially, but you choose not to out of some adherence to a self imposed "rule" of limitation, this decision lacks any true meaning. Nothing polarizing about that I should add. Not that you should be TRYING to polarize. Just letting you know though that it is not polarizing to do so, because it has no meaning and is not in accordance with your will.

But don't give us this bullshit like you can't do positive spiritual work and have money or s*** like that. Money is a useful resource that enable you the freedom and luxury to pursue positive work. You won't have to get a job, you will have time, you will be able to travel, etc. etc. I mean, money is Batman's fucking superpower and you want to act like there is no good you can do with material success. What a load of crap.

"Even the disciples of Jesus constantly asked him how to turn the illusion in their favor. But to live in the illusion is not the right way.[/quote]

There is no "right way" Concepts such as "right" and "wrong" keep people in a disempowered victim state. They are slaves to morality instead of doing positive work because that is in accordance with their will. Why do they do this? Because it makes a convenient excuse for not taking responsibility.

We are in this world but not of it. This seems rather  hard to accept.

Good news is you don't have to accept it, because you have no evidence to support this and you don't have, to my knowledge anything which would give you good reason to believe it. Most people I believe to be wanderers are people who have pierced the veil in some way. Only reason I believe myself to be one is because somebody who has pierced the veil and who I trust in their capability to know has told me it is highly unlikely I am of this world. What is your reason for believing this about yourself? What, because you, like all the other seekers on this forum, have a modicum of spirituality? Not a good enough reason to make such an assumption in my opinion. Even when people DO find out they are wanderers, I can say that those who do find out don't seem to care when they do. Not usually.

Not accepting being on this planet doesn't have to be because you are a wanderer. The reason you don't accept life on this planet, wanderer or not, is because it's full of CRAZY PEOPLE. This is an INSANE PLANET. But YOU CHOSE to be here, so suck it up, Buttercup. I had to, The rest had to. We all have to. And until you do, you are not going anywhere. Think you can just ride out this incarnation wallowing in self pity and nihilism and then die and suddenly return to your precious alien homeworld? Think again. If you do that, your sould will try to accept the lesson of learning to do otherwise, and will seek out probably the CLOSEST PLANET TO this insane asylum, just so you can learn to suyck it up and actually do what you wandered to do, assuming you're not full of s*** and you actually ARE a wanderer, which I don't.

In fact probably the hardest to accept and I have had trouble doing that all my life.

No, the HARDEST thing for you to accept is responsibility. Clearly. We've (almost) all been there dude. But now is not  the time to sit there and brood and s***. Harvest is REALLY ramping up. It's change or die. s*** or get off the pot. If you die, because you refuse to change, that's fine. But you will not just return to some happy gumdrop alien homeworld if you do, so you best get that delusion out of your head right now. NO WAY your soul is moving on and returning to your (supposed) SMC without learning what it feels it needs to learn in order to progress. I would know, because I DIDN'T. I was RITUALISTICALLY TORTURED ina horrific fashion in my last life, so badly it f***** me up in THIS one. Do you think I wanted to return to this fucking madhouse?! No, but I DID anyway, because it's what I knew I needed to do. Do you really think your soul won't do the same? GET REAL. You know, since "Let's be real here" Be careful what you wish for dude, because if you start your thread off with that, I'm taking it as a green light to get VERY real with you. Not that I needed it anyway.

There is no way around this. At some point or another, you are going to have to take the responsibility of actually LIVING and learning your metaphysical lessons. I DO NOT suggest you waste this opportunity, because you are at the end of a Mastercycle on a planet that has just gone 4D positive, with unconditional love energy and 4D light flooding the place at an increasing rate, the veil thinning all the time, channeled material telling you what you have to work with and an energy to the planet that ultimitely makes it VERY hard to maintain negative polarity but increasingly easy to gain positive. NOW IS YOUR CHANCE. I do not suggest you blow it. NExt plan et, you might not have this luxury. And what is it that Ra said? Oh yeah, he said, essentially that when it comes to making use of opportunities to polarize positive, it's USE IT OR LOSE IT. So I suggest you stop being a crybaby and start being a hero. Or you will lose the chance.

This might be the hardest to accept.

Clearly, what is hardest for you to accept is, again, personal responsibility. Keep refusing it, and somebody else will come along to take responsibility FOR YOU and put you in chains. You have been warned.

Actually, it seems you've already chosen to let the power elites who rituallistically torture and enslave this world do JUST THAT to you already. You can liberate yourself at any time though. You could start by knocking off the victim mentality. It'd do you a load of good, but whatever. Not my problem if you'd rather be in chains.

If we do not fight against those who rules us who stops them?

They do. They stop themselves. By fucking up. It's happening right now. They can BARELY keep their s*** together. It's like a suitcase falling apart at the seams. I was looking forward to the s*** show, but now I'm worried that if this is how the world freaks out when they are faced with a disease that's no more deadly than the flu, how are they gonna react when they discover 30-40,000 years of oppression? Now I'm a little worried. Still, it's gonna happen. It's HAPPENIGN RIGHT NOW. No need to form a lynch mob of one, just let these motherfuckers hang themselves. You don't even gotta give em the rope! They will do it themselves. And they are busy fighting EACH OTHER right now.

But let me ask you this? What would you intend to fight the evil Sith overlords with, Luke? Huh? Your self pity? Your nihilism? Your sense of victimhood? They have spent the millenia GLORIFYING the victim mentality to put people like you in EXACTLY the mental state you are expressing in this thread. By indulging in this s***, you are GIVING THEM WHAT THEY WANT.

I am aware of what Jesus said about handling occupation.

Who cares?

He said: "He advises his followers to overcome Roman oppression with creativity and kindness. If a Roman soldier conscripts you into carrying his bags, don’t just take them the legally required limit, carry them the extra mile."

Again, who cares?

This didn't work obviously.

Bullshit. His plan went off without a hitch. You do know he WANTED to be martyred, right?

As you know, Rome eventually captured Jesus and crucified him .

Guess you didn't know that. NEWSFLASH: HE WANTED TO BE MARTYRED.

All according to plan, if you ask me.

It seems that the executioners had a lot of vicious fun with him, as they mocked him with a crown of thorns, a robe, and a “coronation walk” where he was forced to carry the cross he would be crucified on.

So? He signed up for it. Maybe he should have thought up a better way than martyrdom, but it's what he wanted. Not our business to say if his decision was for the best in his case. Seems enough to graduate and move into 5th density. I'm sure he will gain plenty of wisdom there.

And now look, Jesus teachings have been peverted and the Vatican/Jesuits are one of the most powerful organizations of the world(I mean that in a bad way).

They've also done plenty of good too. Either way, he did more for the world than does your whining and bellyaching.

Why bother? with anything. Nothing in this world matters.

Boo hoo. Whoah is you. Nothing in this world matters to YOU. Know why? Because if something DID matter, you would then feel some responsibility for having to DO SOMETHING with that fact. Easier to wallow in nihilistic self pity and say stupid bullshit like "nothing matters" than to actually get off your ass, take some responsibility and DO some s*** that matters.

It might matter for the world after this one but not here.

There are 7 billion people on this planet in need of healing and liberation from oppression. Even when the Family falls apart and their empire crumbles, this world will be in GREAT NEED OF HEALING during the aftermath. CLEARLY, there is stuff that matters to this world, you're just too irresponsible to get off your ass and do any of it. That's fine man, but don't volley your excuses at us looking for pity. There is no service in coddling you by enabling that nihilistic victim mentality bullshit and I for one will have none of it. You can do what you want and you can ignore what I say if you want. THAT'S fine. I am not like the Family. I don't need you to think how I want you to. But that doesn't mean I have to stay silent. I'll at least give you the OPTION of being self aware and taking responsibility for your s***. If you don't want to take it and you just want to wallow in self pity, that's your prerogative. No skin off my ass. I'm just giving you the option to knock it off. You don't have to take it. As they say: You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make them drink it.

All you do here is fight against ebb and tide

You're not showing me you have any fight in you. But whatever. Stop self projecting. You don't have to "fight against the ebb and tide" to do massive good in the world. All you have to do is heal yourself.

Get YOUR OWN s*** IN ORDER.

Everyone wants to "Drain the swamp" and project their problems onto some scapegoat: Washington, Liberals, Conservatives, Foreigners, minorities,  the other gender, other religions, reptilians, the "devil" the "Illuminati" the Orion Empire, etc. etc.

Everybody wants to have a scapegoat.

You wanna drain the swamp? DRAIN THE SWAMP WITHING YOURSELF. Take some personal responsibility and heal yourself. Because WE'RE the "Swamp" dude. THE SWAMP IS US.

An endless cycle of violence.

Not your problem. Focus on taking care of YOURSELF. You are of no use to the rest of the world in this disempowered victim state.

The only problem I seem to have with this is if you are with your family and friends.I can handle not having the gold of this world but can they?

WHO FUCKING CARES? Their insecurities are not your problem.

As the common saying goes pyrite is fools gold.

Whatever.

Here's a quote I like better:

“Life is not compassionate towards victims. The trick is not to see yourself as one. It's never too late! I know I've felt like the victim in various situations in my life, but, it's never too late for me to realize that it's my responsibility to stand on victorious ground and know that whatever it is I'm experiencing or going through, those are just the clouds rolling by while I stand here on the top of this mountain! This mountain called Victory! The clouds will come and the clouds will go, but the truth is that I'm high up here on this mountaintop that reaches into the sky! I am a victor. I didn't climb up the mountain, I was born on top of it!”
― C. JoyBell C.

How's that saying for ya?

I'm not sure I'd be able to see people I love suffer because they refuse to take part in a corrupt system.

YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW, talking yourself out of taking any meaningful action in the world (like focusing on helping yourself so you can be in a position to benefit others) and generally just making excuses and being a whiney crybaby instead of being of any use to them. You are doing EXACTLY THAT. You are standing IDLY BY and watching the world go to s***, while moping in the corner crying into your beer and singing sad songs to yourself about how "nothing matters"

Well if nothing matters, then logically, so would the suffering of your loved ones. Since you just posed the contradiction: On one hand: "Nothing matters." and on the other: "The suffering of the people I love matters"

Stop being a crybaby and PICK ONE.

I know we only have to be 51 % STO but you know in my opinion it's just as hard as being 95%.

As Ra said. Personally, I think percentage points mean nothing, and if you're hung on on them, you won't increase them. I have said it before and I will say it again: If you are hung up on graduating you will NOT graduate. If you are TRYING to polarize, you will NOT polarize. Polarization is the RESULT of realizing your Will, not the impetus.

There's no point trying to live from your heart if you are willing trampling on others in order to get a comfortable life.

So don't.

You are, once more, presenting yet another BULLSHIT false dichotomy:

Live from your heart and don't trample others or have money and do. What a load of crap.

We live with riches because we take from others.

Your excuse for keeping yourself in poverty, which I DO NOT share.

Don't try to sell me anything.

Fine. I won't. Why sell anything to your bum broke ass anyway? But DON'T YOU TRY TO SELL ME ANYTHING EITHER. That includes your whiney BULLSHIT.

This is the matrix we're talking about, not some fantasy.

Like you could tell the difference, or like you've actually ecaped the matrix. Your whiney sense of victimhood says otherwise.

Okay let's take an extreme example.

No need, but okay.

EDIT: WARNING! FALSE EQUIVALENCES OUT THE WAZOO AHEAD!

Say you are in a post apocalyptic scenario and you and your family come across a bunch of thieves and worse....

Okay.

you know the only way to get trough this is to take your guns and use them in a lethal manner.

You "know" it's the only way? Do you really know that? Sounds like another self imposed limitation to me.

It's a one way street.

Then go somewhere else.

Either you do it or you get enslaved.

You have a thing for false dichotomies, so pardon me if I find I'm skeptical of this one as well.

In fact, this whole extreme situation you came up with is a deliberate form of false equivalence you are making so you can treat your own life as if you have no positive option and get to remain a victim.

What do you do?

Well, if it really is a hopelessly dire situation in which no positive option exists, then I guess you KILL THEM, but YOU ARE NOT IN A HOPELESSLY DIRE SITUATION like the one you're making up. You are conflating this "extreme situation" with your CURRENT situation in order to try and smooth out the cognitive dissonance of on one hand being a victim and on the other hand, having a little voice in your head somewhere telling you to knock it off and stop being one. So now you are trying to convince us (and more importantly yourself) that your current sad sack self chopsen victim state is equivalent to being in this bullshit fucking scenario you've imagined, so you can justify being a mopey nihilistic victim.

Again, WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP.

25.5 Questioner: You spoke of an Orion Confederation and a battle being fought between the Confederation and the Orion Confederation. Is it possible to convey any concept of how this battle is fought?

Ra: I am Ra. Picture, if you will, your mind. Picture it then in total unity with all other minds of your society. You are then single-minded and that which is a weak electrical charge in your physical illusion is now an enormously powerful machine whereby thoughts may be projected as things.
In this endeavor the Orion group charges or attacks the Confederation arms with light. The result, a stand-off, as you would call it, both energies being somewhat depleted by this and needing to regroup; the negative depleted through failure to manipulate, the positive depleted through failure to accept that which is given.

25.6 Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you said by “failure to accept that which is given?”

Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.
This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.
It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.
It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.

This is not your current situation and what is more IT IS YET ANOTHER FALSE EQUIVALENCE. Just like your stupid doomsday scenario.

The REALITY (since you wanted us to "be real here") is that you are just choosing to mope around and b**** and whine instead of take meaningful positive action.

You are TOTALLY accepting a state of mental slavery and victimhood, and this mentality is a sign of you LETTING THEM KICK YOUR ASS.

Confederation forces do not operate from a place of victimhood, and neither do those of Orion.


YOU DO. But that's a CHOICE you are making. You are choosing to be a slave and justifying it by saying it is the result of your wokeness and refusal to be a slave. Cognitive dissonance out the ass.

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP.

Defending yourself in this world....what would that turn you into?

Not a sad sack victim crybaby like you are CHOOSING TO BE right now, I know that much.

You are not "defending yourself" so much as giving up and throwing in the towel. This is, what is known in psychology as LEARNED HELPLESSNESS and it is partially the result of tens of thousands of years of deliberate negative programming you have MADE THE CHOICE to adopt.

Want to free yourself? Want to "not be enslaved"? Want to free yourself from the Matrix that you lie to yourself and pretend to be already free from?

GET OFF YOUR ASS THEN, STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND DO SOMETHING POSITIVE.

I suggest you start by healing yourself. Can't heal the world if you don't heal yourself. Work on strengthening your chakras, because you seem to have 3 lower chakras that are completely underpowered.

This might be an extreme example

And deliberately so, so you can make false equivalences. An ACCURATE example wouldn't be enough to convince yourself of your own helplessness. And you know it.

but you can apply it into all areas of life.

If you're full of s***, yeah.

As you can quickly see this isn't a way to live in this world.

I can quickly see two things:

1) you are making excuses for living in a state of perpetual helpless victimhood in order to avoid taking responsibility for yourself

and 2) THAT is now way to live in this world.

To be of service to others is to be a loser in the physical ascpects of life.

This is a decision first and a belief second. And a long ass, self pitying, wall of text full of cognitive dissonance, false dichotomies, false equivalence, denial and excuses third, it seems.

Or does being STO allow you to defend yourself everytime you are attacked?

No, 51% means 100%

You must be 100% positive and never be even remotely negative to be 51% positive. Oh wait, I'm starting to think in your bullshit terms of looking at the world. Glad I caught myself there. That was a close one.

Then you'd have to carefully pick your battles so that you may win them. This quickly goes into STS-thinking.

Ugh... EVERY. GODDAMN. SENTENCE. YOU WRITE. IS HORSE CRAP.

Buddha once said that if you are given a gift and do not accept it it goes back to the one who bought it for you. Similary you can repel attacks and insults.  Does that mean you should just let yourself get beaten down?

No. It means you stop needing the validation of others.

I know you can control your emotional response but still.

I would not recommend "Control" It has not done Reaper's Family much good over the past millenia and it won't do you any. Might I suggest instead SELF-ACCEPTANCE and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

Feel free to choose: Whiney bullshit, learned helplessness nihilism and perpetual victimhood though, if that's your cup of tea.

But since you said: "Let's be real"

I'm keepin' it real.

And since you said:

"Don't try to sell me anything"

Fine. You don't have to buy anything I'm selling. none of that personal responsibility or self healing stuff.

You know what though? Nobody has to buy your bullshit. I sure as hell don't.

How could you allow your body to endure such suffering?

I don't. It's called HEALING. I highly recommend it. But hey, you said not to sell you anything, so don't let my good advice get in the way of your whiney victimhood and bellyaching.

To each their own.

different strokes for different folks.

It is just as much a part of you as is your soul

Oh shut the f*** up. You are NOT your experiences or your pain, you are the one WITNESSING THEM. But whatever dude. Believe what you want.

If you don't like being preached to, FINE. But I don't like being preached to by whiney victims preaching the psalms of victimhood. And if you come to preach that crap, don't expect the rest of us to all instantly become your sad sack acolytes.

Do any of you accept that like Jesus did? I doubt it.

Oh no! I'm not a martyr! Guess if I can't be a martyr, I can't be a good person! Might as well not try to be anything but a sad, ronery, whiney victim then. It's my ONLY 3 options: Martyrdom, victimhood and evil.

Guess I have no choice but to pick victimhood.

OH WHOAH IS ME.

You done with this bullshit? Jesus. Only took you god knows how many paragraphs.

I'm not sure if I'm capable of accepting that.

I'm not sure you're WILLING to accept personal responsibility for your healing of your life. But that's not my probelm. That is YOUR problem.

At the end of the day, you can choose to be self aware or not. It's no difference to me, but since you came to preach the  Gospel of the Crybaby, I have chose to offer a counter sermon:

the Gospel of Personal Responsibility.

Any who read this (yourself included) are free to accept or reject whatever you care to, or go with a third option.

I AM ALL GOOD WITH PEOPLE THINKING FOR THEMSELVES.

Just don't expect people to instantly accept YOUR sermons either dude.

Nobody has to accept your whiney victim mentality. They are free to if they want though. They are also free to throw that bullshit in the trash, like I do.

Whatever.

I'm just offering a counter-point.

Nobody has to accept it.

But you DID say "Let's be real here"

Well... here's me keepin it real! I wonder if you are willing to face reality?