04-07-2020, 08:20 PM
(04-07-2020, 07:00 PM)Agua Wrote: Sitting at home, hiding behind a computer, afraid of connecting with the world and with fellow human beings and dwelling in the amount of love one has to give to the world instead of really manifesting this love or light or spirituality in actual life is, in my opinion, neither helpful for the human beings out there nor is it helpful for the seeker at home.
This life is about living it, connecting with life, with the world, the earth, with people. There is ample opportunity to serve and to grow.
One does not grow nor serve by dwelling in what could be instead of really manifesting it here in this world.
I hope I could clarify what I meant!
That's a simple and sensible point. As it relates to myself, hiding in my personal life instead of being "out there" in some sense and actually bringing something to people is a long-running theme.
To be clear, I didn't have you in mind regarding moralizers who push people to do in an unbalanced way. That relates to faulty wishdom teaching I'm acquainted with.
My background complicates spiritual matters, as the teaching I was submerged in (The Cassiopaean version of "the Work") makes for extreme self-scrutiny and not really growing in what is smallest in oneself, but instead pushing it all aside in search for what is the "real self". The curious self-distance is a big stumbling block, in starting over in a healthier way. My inner guidance suggested that I had "built myself up and burned myself out" at the same time.
The best ideal I have preserved from those years relates to information and how it can help people. The sharing of information can be a very big thing, as the Ra contact shows. The obscuring of understanding can also be a very big thing, as negative imitations show. A future of positive social memory complexes means consciousnesses growing together, which means that whatever brings positive common ground helps, and the removal of artificial barriers between people also helps.
About Gurdjieff's basic point, it's easy to relate to how being messed up in the lower chakras prevents really "being" in what is "done". A stable presence in what corresponds to the fourth chakra corresponds, more or less, to having "crossed the second threshold", in Fourth Way terms, and is very far from how people start out. (The Fourth Way teaching is at an extreme in describing the usual spiritual accomplishments as all imaginary and achieving anything for real as very difficult.)