The CE5 Thread: Contact Has Begun!

[Black Dragon]

Wow the tone on this forum has definitely changed. Oh well. The vid I was referring to was too many years ago to remember. I started one a year ago to see what he had to say and a few minutes into it the was a random woman doing the one eye thing, very obviously. It may have been Unacknowledged or something. Opening credits.

I'll look into it, for the sake of being open minded. I'm my own authority, Steven Greer is simply someone I respect based on what I've seen and heard from him so far. If I found any real evidence he was full of crap other than hearsay and half-baked ideas about "MK Ultra symbolism" that anyone can cut and paste from a forum such as Above Top Secret or Alex Jones or Wes Penre or what have you, then I would no longer support him. I'm not sure how much these forums have or haven't changed since last time you've been active...I can just be a bit of an abrasive a******, especially when I see somebody trying to shoot down a movement and source of information that resonates with me, and all evidence I've seen so far seems to validate, with what I see as half-baked debunker and fear based assumptions probably based on misinformation about "MK Ultra" most likely gleaned from some random YouTube or Reddit user, or a source such as the examples I stated above.

Don't let me scare you off, I respect your right to share your views and opinions. So far, I just ain't seeing the validity in what you are saying, and a million reasons why shills would want to spew disinfo about Greer and make him look like the shill, and with that, a million fear-based reasons why somebody who probably has the best of intentions, would simply swallow that disinfo hook, line, and sinker, and discount Greer at the drop of a hat based on some half-assed crap they read about "MK Ultra symbolism".

I'll look into it from every perspective I can find, and look at all the evidence. Right now, I'm seeing three possibilities, all of which have to be explored. A.) Steven Greer is legit, and you are basing your ideas about what is or isn't MK Ultra symbolism on complete hogwash and misinfo/disinfo. B.) You are correct about the nature of the imagery you saw, and it was slipped in there unbeknownst to Greer to derail the tone of his work, mess with people who view it, and ultimately be discovered so he would be discredited. C.) You are 100% correct, and Greer is a shill and a tool just like Tom Delonge and a lot of others.

I will keep an open mind, look into what you said, and give you the benefit of a doubt. However, I have to say that I really don't know you, and some members here who I really respect, that admittedly have a much purer and less distorted discernment and intuition than myself, have watched the CE5 movie and found it to really resonate with them, and be positive and inspiring. These people are of a generally easy-going and not a fear based nature, so I respect their assessments of things like this.

Anyone else want to weigh in here?