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    04-29-2020, 08:39 AM
    (04-26-2020, 12:52 AM)flofrog Wrote: perhaps it might be interesting to read the books of Alberto Villoldo... Wink

    I read some of them, a few years ago. (My mother used to be into his shamanic teaching, but then parted ways after the group became submerged in psychic warfare with some other group and some became ill. But that was in the late 00's. She gave up shamanic practice in the years after.)

    While a variety of things come to mind in relation to the whole general area of shamanic thought, there's no one big theme I can think of.

    But one detail from Villoldo's personal journey struck me. When he was on an Ayahuasca trip, he experienced himself flying through a Universe of interconnected points, representing possible realities which came towards him and then moved away, rapidly, with a mystical vision of a universal deity behind the veil of it all then entering the picture. Roughly, that's a summary from memory.

    It reminded me of my own thinking from a year or two before reading the book, about timelines and the structure of reality. I envisioned movement through time as graph traversal, i.e. navigating a structure of points and lines, where from each point, there may be one or more lines giving options for the next point to be reached.

    We experience movement through time as one-dimensional, but various mystical thinkers, e.g. P.D. Ouspensky a century ago, describe multi-dimensional time, the limitation of human perception making it seem one-dimensional.

    Ouspensky thought that time is three-dimensional, just like space, and that for "higher-dimensional beings", one or more dimensions we consider to be of time may be of space instead. It is the limitations of a being's awareness, according to Ouspensky, which result in time being perceived. His thought experiments describe how, for animals, one or more dimensions of our 3D space may seem like they belong to time, space seeming either 2D (for other mammals lacking human "depth" concepts) or 1D (e.g. for a snail moving through a landscape, unaware of how it turns direction).

    Ouspensky was very much into the late 19th century and early 20th century thinking about a fourth dimension of space, but went further. He speculated about how the incomplete nature of human consciousness made a fourth dimension of space seem like a third dimension of time.

    The dimensions of time, according to Ouspensky, are:
    1. The "line of time" (which some modern channeled sources claim is characteristic of 3D beings and becomes part of space in 4D).
    2. The range of possibilities; we navigate it with little awareness, just like a snail navigates to the left and the right with no idea of the bigger landscape surrounding it.
    3. The time-space of eternal repetition, in which all possible variations of developments play out.

    I think Ouspensky's framework is interesting in relation to Ra's presentation. The dimension of time which remains at the 6D level may be #3 above; 6D STO may have moved beyond the line of time and the range of possibilities, but "waits" in active participation until the full range of possible developments - the infinity of the current creation's possibilities - play out towards the reaching of unity. Then 6D can move on, without any division, into 7D, consciousness merging back fully into unity as part of a grand synchronization in the last dimension of time.

    The "graph traversal" metaphor for movement through time represents two dimensions, the line-of-time and the range-of-possibilities, in a 2D structure. The third, called "eternity", corresponds to all the different possibilities for how the traversal could have been done.

    It becomes even more interesting if the graph is not fully defined in advance. Think of a computer program which constructs a graph dynamically, in accordance with the current state of things. From time to time the graph is extended, or connections added between points when it is determined how they are related. How the graph ultimately looks may then be unique for each unique traversal.
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    Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-22-2020, 01:25 PM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by Strannik - 04-22-2020, 01:33 PM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-26-2020, 12:46 AM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by flofrog - 04-26-2020, 12:52 AM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-29-2020, 08:39 AM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by flofrog - 04-29-2020, 12:59 PM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-29-2020, 02:18 PM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by flofrog - 04-29-2020, 10:09 PM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-29-2020, 09:50 AM
    RE: Computer science metaphors for the spiritual - by Navaratna - 04-29-2020, 03:45 PM

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