05-15-2020, 02:16 AM
(05-15-2020, 01:03 AM)Navaratna Wrote: I don't call anything that I think faith. It's important to me to balance logic and emotion and spiritual pursuits with your physical orientation. I am not a follower. I will not walk a plank in faith to anyone or anything.
Just for the sake of clarity, the point in the OP is that faith is not, and cannot be, supported by logic. Faith is a different animal altogether. It is about communion with life as an Earth being concurrent with beingness beyond this world.
Logic is a tool only of this world. For example, once you enter a dream or other realms of deep consciousness, logic has very limited value. Faith, in these realms, is a far better friend and guide.
Navaratna Wrote:Faith/belief is in my opinion is the attitude that you couldn't be wrong.
How do you distinguish this from mere arrogance?
Navaratna Wrote:Infinitely beating heart of the creator
https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=18226
One Universal Mind
https://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=18190
The holy ghost or ruh is the epitome of Sahaja Yoga. You feel a cool sensation on your palms and your head. It is your energy vortices unblocked and balanced completely. This isn't possible in my opinion if the palm chakras are neglected like they are in most meditations.
http://sahajayogaencyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Ruh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rūḥ
"To attain Tajalli ar-rūḥ, (the ultimate manifestation of divine truth in the human soul) the Salik (Sufi aspirant), must cultivate the following 13 spiritual qualities or virtuous practices, thus facilitating the gradual awakening in order of the various centres or subtle plexuses of his/her jism latif (subtle body).
Irādah or Commitment to God
Istiqāmah or Steadfastness in the way with God
Hāya or Shame in committing evil
Ḥurīyyah or Freedom: Ibrahim Bin Adham said, "A free man is one who abandons the world before he leaves the world". Yaḥyā Bin Maz said, "Those who serve the people of the world are slaves, and those who serve the people of ʾĀkhirah are the free ones". Abū ʿAlī Daqāq said, "Remember, real freedom is in total obedience. Therefore if someone has total obedience in God, he will be free from the slavery of non God"
Are these items of your experience or are they merely thoughts to you? If they are merely thoughts, then how much depth, how much value can they have?