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    01-27-2011, 09:00 PM
    (01-27-2011, 08:32 PM)Derek ~ Wrote: Creating equality and harmony is great, which seems to be the main message, but his answers are entirely cerebral and uninspiring..lacking any spirituality.

    what needs to be spiritual about providing food to everyone ? fulfilling basic needs ? the act of doing that is spiritual enough ...

    Quote:yet has nothing to offer other than how to be efficient beings.

    maybe because i had engineering training i instantly see what is different. however, it shouldnt be too different for any untrained eye either.

    the plan he proposes is entirely different from how we are doing things today. it revolves on meeting actual need, on-demand. it is not about efficiency, but, how things are decided to be done.

    the video explains it quite well, however, if we reiterate, current economy decides what to produce and sell depending on what profit it sees, in the persona of all companies separately. leaving aside efficiency/waste concepts, it actually even creates nonexistent consumption/demand for goods that are not necessary. then, decides the format and level of production entirely itself, and supplies into the market. while doing that, it targets certain prices, which itself estimated. it employs various selling schemes and promotions, in order to further induce demand.

    what the video proposes, is basically automation of entire decision making, based on real demand.

    ie, i go and enter a demand for, say, a monitor of certain size and properties. 20,000 other people worldwide do the same in one cycle. in the production cycle, these units are produced and delivered to us, entirely.

    i get what i demand, not more, not less, exactly what i want. the decider of production, is therefore, basically people, and the demand, is real. no units of monitors wastes in storehouses or thrown away. 30,000 monitors are not produced and sold through advertising, persuasion, promotion or bundling schemes. nothing what people may not need (ie, selling me a 18 inch monitor instead of a 22 inch one) is not produced. all demand is real, fit and exact.

    now replace monitor with any food item, and you will see the importance of example.

    .................

    the video is basically about democratizing the economy. currently, only politics is democraticized - ie, supposedly we all have equal vote.

    but, the economic side of life, is entirely feudal in that, any sufficiently powerful individual/group can single handedly decide what can be done with any given amount of resources they control.

    as you can understand, situation is totally anti-democratic, resulting in incidents like millions of tonnes of grain rotting in warehouses in order to keep grain prices up at a certain level, while there is hunger in africa.

    ................

    you are seeking for a deeper striving towards what we are. but, noone can find time to strive for anything, if they are in the struggle of surviving. and more than 80% of, for example u.s., is in that fight for struggle.

    in an environment as depicted, the entity would find endless time and energy to engage in any spiritual activity, from art, to meditation to science.

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    New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-26-2011, 05:01 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Lorna - 01-26-2011, 07:02 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Amiyou - 01-26-2011, 10:34 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 11:42 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Amiyou - 01-27-2011, 12:42 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 02:28 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 02:00 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Peregrinus - 01-27-2011, 02:35 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Fallen Destiny - 01-27-2011, 02:49 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 03:27 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Fallen Destiny - 01-27-2011, 05:59 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 07:18 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by native - 01-27-2011, 08:32 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 09:00 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by native - 01-28-2011, 12:49 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 12:11 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Focus123 - 01-28-2011, 12:30 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 12:36 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by native - 01-28-2011, 03:04 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 08:29 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by native - 01-29-2011, 04:18 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by native - 01-28-2011, 04:19 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by zanny - 01-28-2011, 05:32 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Focus123 - 01-28-2011, 11:27 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by turtledude23 - 01-28-2011, 11:57 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Fallen Destiny - 01-29-2011, 11:07 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by native - 01-30-2011, 01:57 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by xlsander - 02-16-2011, 12:09 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-16-2011, 12:15 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Izzy - 02-19-2011, 11:57 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-27-2011, 02:24 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 02:35 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-27-2011, 02:37 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 02:45 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-27-2011, 03:05 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 03:11 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-27-2011, 03:18 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 04:16 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-27-2011, 04:41 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 05:03 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-27-2011, 05:45 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 05:53 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-27-2011, 07:23 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-27-2011, 09:25 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-28-2011, 07:02 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 02-28-2011, 11:30 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 03-01-2011, 06:52 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 03-01-2011, 04:00 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 03-01-2011, 04:15 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by BlatzAdict - 03-01-2011, 04:22 PM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Ocean - 02-28-2011, 02:35 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by Ocean - 02-28-2011, 09:38 AM
    RE: New Zeitgeist movie - by unity100 - 02-28-2011, 11:26 AM
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