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    07-03-2020, 06:58 PM (This post was last modified: 07-03-2020, 07:00 PM by Asolsutsesvyl.)
    (07-03-2020, 06:47 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote:
    (07-03-2020, 06:24 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:
    (06-21-2020, 11:10 AM)Infinite Wrote: Rereading some excerpts from LOO, it seems to me that martyrdom or accepting everything from others is not ideal in Ra's view.




    Quote:May we note that martyrdom is not necessarily helpful.
    (40.1)

    [...]

    Ra elsewhere makes clear that positivity is unlinked to the ultimate effects of the giving. E.g., a purely positive being enslaved and used as a source of energy by the dark side can remain purely positive, even though the energy fuels something negative. Consequence ethics are thus separate from the basic functioning of polarity, which has much more to do with intent.

    This very simple look at polarity in the abstract is then combined with a more multidimensional analysis in terms of the 7 rays. It becomes very tricky to distinguish between STO and STS in any sure way in a simple formula. But Montalk's point is obviously valid in the simple sense that positivity comes in many forms, and the main, healthy and sustainable forms are not the short-lived paths of martyrdom. At best, martyrdom is like a short-circuit which makes bright sparks fly, but then unfortunately also puts an end to most possibilities for future developments.

    That's fascinating. I thought Ra said that negativity when pure was a gravity well and it was impossible to maintain any degree of positivity.

    There's many dynamics of polarity which are possible. The extreme of a gravity-well-like spiritual environment is only on one end of a range of possibilities for co-option. Here's the main quote I had in mind...

    Quote:25.5 Questioner: You spoke of an Orion Confederation and a battle being fought between the Confederation and the Orion Confederation. Is it possible to convey any concept of how this battle is fought?

    Ra: I am Ra. Picture, if you will, your mind. Picture it then in total unity with all other minds of your society. You are then single-minded, and that which is a weak electrical charge in your physical illusion is now an enormously powerful machine whereby thoughts may be projected as things.

    In this endeavor the Orion group charges, or attacks, the Confederation arms with light. The result, a standoff, as you would call it, both energies being somewhat depleted by this and needing to regroup; the negative depleted through failure to manipulate, the positive depleted through failure to accept that which is given.

    25.6 Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you said by “failure to accept that which is given?”

    Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.

    This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then, though pure, it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.

    It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction, and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.

    It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.

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    turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-17-2020, 10:51 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Minyatur - 06-17-2020, 11:23 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-17-2020, 11:33 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by unity100 - 06-17-2020, 03:27 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-18-2020, 01:51 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Dtris - 06-17-2020, 07:17 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Black Dragon - 06-18-2020, 12:23 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-18-2020, 01:59 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-03-2020, 06:04 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Navaratna - 06-18-2020, 01:50 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 06-18-2020, 07:43 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-18-2020, 09:41 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 06-18-2020, 10:27 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-18-2020, 10:41 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-18-2020, 11:19 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Black Dragon - 06-18-2020, 06:53 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-19-2020, 07:49 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 06-18-2020, 09:34 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Navaratna - 06-18-2020, 08:37 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-19-2020, 08:30 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-19-2020, 09:23 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-19-2020, 09:27 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Dtris - 06-19-2020, 10:42 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Diana - 06-19-2020, 10:58 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-19-2020, 11:05 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-19-2020, 01:04 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 06-21-2020, 11:10 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-03-2020, 06:24 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 07-03-2020, 06:47 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-03-2020, 06:58 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by flofrog - 06-21-2020, 11:23 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 06-21-2020, 12:28 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by dexter101 - 06-22-2020, 09:42 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Diana - 06-22-2020, 10:22 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 06-23-2020, 08:15 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-23-2020, 08:16 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 06-23-2020, 09:06 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 07-01-2020, 04:55 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Black Dragon - 07-02-2020, 01:15 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Infinite - 07-02-2020, 11:17 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by flofrog - 06-22-2020, 12:41 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-22-2020, 12:44 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by Diana - 06-23-2020, 11:23 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by AnthroHeart - 06-23-2020, 11:28 AM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by flofrog - 06-22-2020, 12:46 PM
    RE: turning the other cheek? - by TheAmbiguousSod - 07-01-2020, 07:15 AM
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