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    01-28-2011, 02:30 PM (This post was last modified: 01-28-2011, 02:37 PM by rva_jeremy.)
    (01-28-2011, 02:00 PM)Confused Wrote: I especially find the highlighted portion intriguing. Can you explain more on that? I am interested because going by the definition, I will personally tip over into the negative utilization of chakric potentialities.

    First, this is just my understanding and is both limited and distorted. It is not "right". Your best bet is to have a direct experience of the chakras, which is something that I struggle with as well. I shudder at being taken too literally.

    That said, here's what I was trying to say, and understand that the portion you highlighted is something that, in retrospect, I think was a bit of derailment from your core question.

    In a universe that is one, without judgment, polarity, or rejection, accepting all and infinite, there is no experience. There is only identity, as Ra says. Therefore, all is well and nothing is in jeopardy. But also nothing is gained in terms of growth and deeper understanding. Nothing ventured, nothing gained is the motto of the first distortion of free will, it seems. The only way to experience something "new" in an infinite creation is to posit finity - to enter into an illusion in which there is seeming separation and less than wholeness.

    So the Creator seeks to know itself by knowing itself in separation. Ra describes the fractal segmentation of the one Creator into Logoi, sub-Logoi, sub-sub-Logoi, etc. Each of these levels are complete in that they contain the whole, but they are incomplete in that they represent the wish of the Creator to know itself through separation.

    This separation - this idea that the undifferentiated whole need not be paid attention to, but instead we can emphasize certain aspects over others - is the core of our experience. We choose to see separate bodies and troubles as an alternative to undifferentiated oneness. In my opinion, it seems like the chakra system is a manifestation of how we filter out that part of the Creation we choose not to accept. We do this via our thinking, which creates blockages and distortions. Since the different chakras represent different aspects of the whole, we can understand our blockages in terms of locating them on this chakric energy map, so to speak.

    These blockages are not simply inefficient usages of love/light - they are the very stuff of what we offer the Creator. Our experience of distortion and blockage is what helps the Creator understand itself better. Working through these experiences is an honor from the viewpoint of those who do not experience the veil, or the experience we have of being limited bodies in a finite world.

    With respect to negative utilization of chakras, then, I would contemplate what you desire. Ra places emphasis on the desire or will as the crux of our path. In what way are you utilizing chakras negatively, and why do you judge it negative?

    Again, throw out anything that seems wrong here, and others please offer corrections and refinements. I am not a teacher.
    One more thing, Confused: I think it would be helpful, perhaps, if you shared your specific reactions to what people (including me) are writing here. You may see something that helps me or somebody else understand all this better by coming at it from a different angle. Of course, that goes for everybody else reading this, too.
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    From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-27-2011, 06:17 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Eddie - 01-27-2011, 06:24 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-27-2011, 06:31 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 07:59 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 05:12 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 11:39 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 12:34 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 12:39 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 01:49 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 02:00 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 02:30 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 03:27 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 04:36 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 05:27 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 07:36 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 02:24 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-29-2011, 01:54 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 04:52 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-29-2011, 05:07 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 05:10 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-29-2011, 05:31 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 06:54 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:23 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 02:07 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:20 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 06:53 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 08:03 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 09:27 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 03:33 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-31-2011, 02:05 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 02:57 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-31-2011, 03:06 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 02:14 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:28 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 04:22 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 04:28 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Sacred Fool - 01-28-2011, 02:38 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 07:59 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 08:19 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by zenmaster - 01-27-2011, 08:39 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Turtle - 01-27-2011, 08:46 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by NegaNova - 01-27-2011, 09:16 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 02:42 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 08:35 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-30-2011, 03:23 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 03:33 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-31-2011, 07:00 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 02-01-2011, 12:23 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Victorjames - 01-27-2012, 11:36 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by apeiron - 01-28-2012, 12:10 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Victorjames - 01-28-2012, 12:44 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Plenum - 01-28-2012, 01:33 AM

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