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    01-28-2011, 03:27 PM (This post was last modified: 01-28-2011, 03:36 PM by Confused.)
    (01-28-2011, 02:30 PM)jeremy6d Wrote: In a universe that is one, without judgment, polarity, or rejection, accepting all and infinite, there is no experience. There is only identity, as Ra says. Therefore, all is well and nothing is in jeopardy. But also nothing is gained in terms of growth and deeper understanding. Nothing ventured, nothing gained is the motto of the first distortion of free will, it seems. The only way to experience something "new" in an infinite creation is to posit finity - to enter into an illusion in which there is seeming separation and less than wholeness.

    So the Creator seeks to know itself by knowing itself in separation. Ra describes the fractal segmentation of the one Creator into Logoi, sub-Logoi, sub-sub-Logoi, etc. Each of these levels are complete in that they contain the whole, but they are incomplete in that they represent the wish of the Creator to know itself through separation.

    This separation - this idea that the undifferentiated whole need not be paid attention to, but instead we can emphasize certain aspects over others - is the core of our experience. We choose to see separate bodies and troubles as an alternative to undifferentiated oneness. In my opinion, it seems like the chakra system is a manifestation of how we filter out that part of the Creation we choose not to accept. We do this via our thinking, which creates blockages and distortions. Since the different chakras represent different aspects of the whole, we can understand our blockages in terms of locating them on this chakric energy map, so to speak.

    These blockages are not simply inefficient usages of love/light - they are the very stuff of what we offer the Creator. Our experience of distortion and blockage is what helps the Creator understand itself better. Working through these experiences is an honor from the viewpoint of those who do not experience the veil, or the experience we have of being limited bodies in a finite world.

    Jeremy, all this is exquisitely deep. I am loving your explanations here. Not to worry about me taking it literally and going off-track. I think I am mature enough to take care; but please do not restrict yourself out of concern that some seeker might take you too seriously in naive admiration, and thus lose way.

    All your remarks brought forth a quote and a related question into active consciousness. The following from LOO -
    Quote:13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the first known thing in the creation?

    Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.

    If infinity is the first know thing in creation and is creation, then what was it that remained before infinity (the unknown thing)? Is it the 'identity' that you take about? Are the 7-rays and the associated chakras leading into the mystery that 'we do not plumb', a reflection of that unknown first principle?

    And Jeremy, I think all are teachers and all are students simultaneously. In that sense, you are a teacher; but I think I understand what you meant Smile
    (01-28-2011, 02:38 PM)peregrine Wrote: If you're inwardly engaging by way of conflict and resistance in the areas represented (will to live, etc., etc.), then you'll be experiencing the blockages or over-chargedness as manifested struggles in your outward life (a/k/a catalyst).

    Peregrine, thanks for helping, friend. In line with the portion that I have picked from your remarks, I have a quote from the LOO to put forward -

    Quote:66.20 Questioner: Would you please list the polarities within the body which are related to the balancing of the energy centers of the various bodies of the unmanifested entity?

    Ra: I am Ra. In this question there lies a great deal of thought which we appreciate. It is possible that the question itself may serve to aid meditations upon this particular subject. Each unmanifested self is unique. The basic polarities have to do with the balanced vibratory rates and relationships between the first three energy centers and to a lesser extent, each of the other energy centers.

    May we answer more specifically?

    I find it interesting that Master Ra affirmed the value of the question in terms of content, though it appears superficially simple (to me at least). Though I do not understand what the 'unmanifested self' is, I find it piquant that the 'basic polarities' have primarily to do with the interaction between the first three energy centers. The very centers that usually receive a bad press. I am of course assuming that the first three mean Red through Yellow. Do the first three mean otherwise Violet through Blue?

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    From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-27-2011, 06:17 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Eddie - 01-27-2011, 06:24 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-27-2011, 06:31 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 07:59 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 05:12 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 11:39 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 12:34 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 12:39 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 01:49 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 02:00 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 02:30 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 03:27 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 04:36 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 05:27 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 07:36 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 02:24 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-29-2011, 01:54 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 04:52 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-29-2011, 05:07 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 05:10 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-29-2011, 05:31 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 06:54 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:23 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 02:07 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:20 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 06:53 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 08:03 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 09:27 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 03:33 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-31-2011, 02:05 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 02:57 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-31-2011, 03:06 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 02:14 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:28 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 04:22 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 04:28 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Sacred Fool - 01-28-2011, 02:38 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 07:59 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 08:19 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by zenmaster - 01-27-2011, 08:39 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Turtle - 01-27-2011, 08:46 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by NegaNova - 01-27-2011, 09:16 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 02:42 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 08:35 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-30-2011, 03:23 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 03:33 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-31-2011, 07:00 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 02-01-2011, 12:23 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Victorjames - 01-27-2012, 11:36 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by apeiron - 01-28-2012, 12:10 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Victorjames - 01-28-2012, 12:44 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Plenum - 01-28-2012, 01:33 AM

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