Trump rally in Tulsa causing an earthquake and demonstrating a case study

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"So, basically, knowing the region a bit, i can just say that those old Russians did not see through propaganda as they self-profess, but they just cynically dismissed anything they were told by their government due to Eastern European / Russian cynicism and fatalism. Which also plagues a lot of regions, from Balkans to parts of Anatolia."

And this is what is happening in this country. People cynically acceptinganything they were told by their media systemdue to Liberal or Republicancynicism and fatalism. Which also plagues a lot of regions, from California to New York

I think its the total opposite: For a bunch who boast about not trusting government, American right seems to be exceedingly trusting of what the government says. They buy whatever the government says about China, Venezuela, Iraq (still), this or that other country they dont like, they buy whatever they are told about whatever race, religion, ideology or concept they dont like, they buy whatever they are told about wars and military (still!).

It seems as long as what they are told is in line with their personal biases, there is no problem in trusting the government...

I find the non-conservative segments more cynical and more investigative. Even as they are also aligned with their respective propaganda outlets.

The universe is a very cold and harsh ruler of life and death. Animals are governed by the rule of survival of the fittest. All alien races are also ruled by this very brutal truth.

Not only from the material, but also by observing the Earth's natural world, you would find that this kind of pessimist approach is not correct.

Species which cooperate among themselves, prosper in Earth's nature. Even if it is harsh. Species which cooperate in between each other, prosper even further. That only carries over to the universe in general - species that cooperate would prosper further.

Possibly for that reason, the negative segment is ~1/10 of the positive segment in creation at all times. A ration which Ra noted.

Its just that the societal structure on this planet was negative. The root of many problems...

The 4th dimension will arrive and you and I will both leave this body.

4th density is already here. You are witnessing the birthing pains of the 4d society which will exist in it. Because the 3d society has been negative structured.

There is no body-leaving needed. 4d is happening here and now.

So, the people in Eastern Bloc were eating slightly worse than their public officials, but yet they were still eating and eating well.

I'm trying to keep it civil, but I'm not going to pretend that I am not outraged by this statement.

How do you explain the following?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Do you call that eating "slightly worse"?

Leaving aside that is not relevant to the majority of Eastern Bloc's period history...

http://orientalreview.org/2012/12/17/epi...1932-1933/

How about a gold embargo by UK which was designed to force Soviets to export their grain to buy machinery to industrialize, or not industrialize at all. Right at the time when there was a risk of famine across entire Europe. Even as UK itself needed gold/liquidity desperately due to Great Depression tanking entire market and causing a liquidity crash.

Soviets took a calculated risk, banking on the possibility of famine not happening, and obliged with UK's measure obviously designed to put them in peril.

UK won the gamble and famine happened.

And yet, USSR implemented rationing across entire USSR in order to help the regions affected by famine - so much that from the records, we know that rationing in Leningrad, northern rich regions, was harsher than the rationing in Ukraine, in order to help Ukraine region.

At this point it must be noted that the private farmers, who happened to be ex-minor nobility of their villages throughout Russian imperial history, were allowed to keep their privileges of private farming and profiting by Lenin. This proved a mistake during the famine, as these Kulaks have hoarded the grain that was produced to gouge prices at the cost of their compatriots' lives, and even destroyed some in order to prevent prices from going down. Exactly the same thing that happens today in the West.

https://time.com/5843136/covid-19-food-destruction/

And that's also the same thing which happened during Great Depression US, even as Americans were impoverished, homeless and hungry.

Incidentally, if you apply the formula that the American military-industry complex uses to calculate 'deaths' in USSR or China, you get a figure of ~7 million people dead from Great Depression in US.

Same formula is used to 'calculate' 'death's in 1950s China during famine. Even as US effected a global grain blockade against them via UN at that period. Why would someone effect a grain blockade against a country, other than the aim of starving its people...

The suffering of people in Great Depression US is unspoken during these propaganda, of course. Because, the establishment does not want anyone to pay attention to worse situations in its own backyard. Worse, because even as USSR did everything in its power to aid the regions with famine, Hoover administration just let people starve and suffer to not intervene in the 'market'. Actual ideological murder, that is.

So USSR aids everyone during its famine indiscriminately. US lets its people starve based on ideology. But, its USSR and others who are 'ideological murderers'.

Lying and projection.

That's what it is.

Just like how Iraq was invaded in 2003 for oil based on lies, 1 million killed, its oil robbed, everything destructed, US backed radical islamists to control the region, but what happened is still Iraqis' fault.

The exact same narrative used in white supremacist literature to justify and explain the genocide of American Indians - 'They got exterminated, but it was for their own good'.

Yes, that's an actual argument used in such literature. Especially late 19th century literature. Even so a lot of extremist right figureheads use it.

The bully beats up the kid in the playground. But it is the kid's fault for having the bully hit him.

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So basically, to 'explain' things like Holodomor, one just needs to look a little bit wider on the globe map in the period. And talk about what is not being talked about...

Were there mistakes and mishaps in such countries which tried to revolutionize their society? Yeah, definitely.

Were any of those intentional genocidal massacres as claimed by Angloamerican establishment?

Not even funny as a joke. People only believe these things and get outraged like you thanks to incessant, uncontested, decades-long propaganda.

If we didnt have internet, by this time everyone would 'know' that there were WMDs in Iraq, Saddam posed a great danger to civilization and he was planning to destroy it

The answer is neither socialism nor capitalism, but a broader perspective that sees the other-self as the self.

Yeah, except that is socialism. Seeing the society as a whole, leaving no one behind, prioritizing the people, and in more positively polarized stages, the society over the self.

The problem with communism is that it entails forced compassion

Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless Star Trek environment. You are talking about Marxist-Leninism, aka Stalinism. You are not even talking about Leninism.

Even when speaking in that context as misusing the word communism for Stalinism:

How do you think that compassion happens in positive 4 societies? Do you think you can just be selfish if you choose so? Do you think you can still stay in the 4d positive society despite choosing to act selfish?

Or do you get sent to live as wanderer in some 3d planet so that you can polarize positively enough. Or, even 'worse' - you just leave that society and instead join a proper negative society to go along with your selfishness?

The reality of the matter is that what you call compassion and sharing are obligatory in positive 4d. You cant even pretend to have them and not have them.

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Leaving the more advanced, spiritual analysis aside, non-forced compassion and participation in the society just does not work:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/17/us/cr...index.html

When you make it optional to participate in well being of the society, this is what you end up with. Everybody dodges paying taxes, especially the ultra rich who command most of the society's wealth, and the society literally, physically, actually crashes down.

Participation in and taking care of the society is not an optional and voluntary thing just like cleaning and taking care of your house is not optional and voluntary. Dont do it, and it just comes crashing down.

Just like how a house is someone's abode, just like a body is someone's manifestation that needs to be taken care of by fulfilling certain basic obligations, a society is a living, existing entity in itself which must take care of itself. Just like the cells in a body takes care of each other and the body.

It is not optional because no body whose cells do not cooperate and take care of each other and the body, can survive.

For anything you hold so dear to happen - from freedom to love - first you must be alive. You as a person, and your society as an entity.